From: Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid>
Subject: Re: Getting started with bare-board development
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 11:58:58 +0200
Date: 2016-11-15T11:58:58+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e904j2Fss0iU1@mid.individual.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <o0ehht$1l0c$1@gioia.aioe.org>
On 16-11-15 10:38 , Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>
> Typical developing process stages, at least in my area, is like this
>
> 1. Workstation Simulation time
> Application
> [HAL]
> Mock actuators/sensors
>
> 2. Workstation Hardware-in-the-loop, real-time
> Application
> [HAL]
> Real/Mock actuators/sensors
>
> 3. Embedded Target platform
> Application
> [HAL]
> Real/Mock actuators/sensors
>
> Most of developing is done in #1 or #2. Most of testing in #2. #3 is
> limited to final integration tests.
In my domain (subcontractor for embedded SW in spacecraft) we typically
use only one of the stages 1 and 2, not both. But otherwise our work is
very similar.
> QEMU et al is not used, because it makes no sense to emulate
> computational hardware when you have Ada, unless you are an OS
> developer.
Or unless you worry about compiler bugs being different in the native
and cross compilers, or about platform-dependencies introduced by
mistake in the Ada application. Endian-dependency is easily introduced
by mistake if the application does a lot of communication with HW. Our
targets are usually big-endian SPARCs, but workstations are
little-endian PCs.
Typically we do the final unit-testing runs both on workstations and on
a target emulator, to settle such worries.
> Whatever OS/platform-dependent parts requiring test under an emulator,
> they are quite minuscule or non-existent if an OS is used.
We rarely (well, never) use an OS in embedded systems. Ravenscar or
bare-board (zero runtime) is the norm for us. Though, there is a trend
to have application-independent but domain-specific "execution platform"
SW components which are like domain-specific OSs and can support various
applications in this domain.
--
Niklas Holsti
Tidorum Ltd, working for SSF
niklas holsti tidorum fi
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Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-11 22:19 Getting started with bare-board development Adam Jensen
2016-11-11 22:43 ` Maciej Sobczak
2016-11-12 9:45 ` G.B.
2016-11-12 16:14 ` Adam Jensen
2016-11-12 19:15 ` artium
2016-11-12 21:37 ` Adam Jensen
2016-11-13 4:01 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-11-13 20:03 ` Adam Jensen
2016-11-13 21:04 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-11-13 22:00 ` Adam Jensen
2016-11-14 8:11 ` Paul Rubin
2016-11-14 23:03 ` Adam Jensen
2016-11-14 9:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-11-14 23:35 ` Adam Jensen
2016-11-15 8:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-11-15 9:58 ` Niklas Holsti [this message]
2016-11-15 17:32 ` Adam Jensen
2016-11-16 9:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2016-11-15 0:06 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2016-11-14 18:17 ` Simon Wright
2016-11-14 22:52 ` Adam Jensen
2016-11-12 20:59 ` Brian Drummond
2016-11-15 1:14 ` antispam
2016-11-15 4:20 ` Adam Jensen
2016-11-19 22:46 ` antispam
2016-11-15 19:34 ` Robert Eachus
2016-11-15 22:07 ` Adam Jensen
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