From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Buffer overflow Article - CACM
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 09:35:11 +0100
Date: 2005-11-14T09:35:08+01:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e8b1sf16mj2m.eq5dk3rsnk2c$.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 43783810.6080808@obry.net
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 08:09:04 +0100, Pascal Obry wrote:
>> Then they say that bounds checking adds 100% overhead. This may be true
>> of trying to patch C, but it's certainly not true of all the checks Ada
>> does, which is much more than simply bounds checking. In practice I have
>> never found a case in which leaving checks in was too slow, nor where
>> turning them off saved more than 10%.
>
> And then even if there was 100% overhead, what the problem ? For most
> applications this is not critical and at least for debugging the
> application this is invaluable. Running with a 100% overhead is
> equivalent to running with a computer 18 months old. Not that bad :)
> Again I understand that in some domains we are counting the CPU cycles,
> but this is not the majority of applications.
This is not the whole truth. I agree that overhead caused by run-time
checks is not a big deal. But that is not the problem in my view. Let they
be 0%! The real problem is that a check may fail while program crash is not
an option. This means that there must be some error handling. More errors
may happen at run-time more complex infrastructure one would require. Add
here unit tests for these errors etc.
It is a design problem and design problems are in order of magnitude more
expensive than any hardware.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2005-11-13 5:14 Buffer overflow Article - CACM adaworks
2005-11-13 7:35 ` tmoran
2005-11-13 8:49 ` Martin Krischik
2005-11-13 11:55 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-11-13 14:58 ` Florian Weimer
2005-11-14 13:44 ` Marc A. Criley
2005-11-14 19:13 ` Martin Krischik
2005-11-13 15:02 ` Florian Weimer
2005-11-13 15:44 ` Stephen Leake
2005-11-14 14:40 ` adaworks
2005-11-13 23:57 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-11-14 6:51 ` Martin Dowie
2005-11-14 17:55 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-11-15 9:14 ` Martin Dowie
2005-11-14 7:09 ` Pascal Obry
2005-11-14 8:35 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2005-11-14 20:57 ` Simon Wright
2005-11-15 8:49 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-11-15 14:03 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-11-15 15:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-11-15 22:32 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-11-16 1:21 ` Robert A Duff
2005-11-16 9:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-11-16 13:02 ` adaworks
2005-11-17 11:13 ` Martin Dowie
2005-11-14 17:58 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-11-14 18:44 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-11-25 5:56 ` Christopher Browne
2005-11-26 1:31 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-11-27 21:36 ` adaworks
2005-11-28 12:12 ` Simon Clubley
2005-12-01 2:35 ` robin
2005-12-01 7:05 ` adaworks
2005-12-03 13:42 ` robin
2005-12-03 18:18 ` adaworks
2005-12-12 1:23 ` robin
2005-12-31 7:39 ` robin
2005-12-31 17:03 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-01-01 12:12 ` Martin Krischik
2006-01-01 23:12 ` robin
2006-01-02 3:37 ` jimmaureenrogers
2006-01-12 22:10 ` robin
2006-01-03 9:52 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-01-12 22:10 ` robin
2006-01-12 22:36 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-01-13 19:53 ` Keith Thompson
2006-01-13 20:22 ` Dan Nagle
2006-01-14 17:50 ` Björn Persson
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2006-01-13 23:28 ` robin
2005-11-30 15:27 ` robin
2005-11-14 10:17 ` Peter Amey
2005-11-29 8:16 ` Harald Korneliussen
2005-11-29 10:48 ` Peter Amey
2005-11-30 21:21 ` Brian May
2005-12-01 5:36 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-12-01 9:01 ` Harald Korneliussen
2005-12-01 11:21 ` Martin Dowie
2005-12-01 17:58 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
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