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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Buffer overflow Article - CACM
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 09:35:11 +0100
Date: 2005-11-14T09:35:08+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e8b1sf16mj2m.eq5dk3rsnk2c$.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 43783810.6080808@obry.net

On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 08:09:04 +0100, Pascal Obry wrote:

>> Then they say that bounds checking adds 100% overhead. This may be true
>> of trying to patch C, but it's certainly not true of all the checks Ada
>> does, which is much more than simply bounds checking. In practice I have
>> never found a case in which leaving checks in was too slow, nor where
>> turning them off saved more than 10%.
> 
> And then even if there was 100% overhead, what the problem ? For most
> applications this is not critical and at least for debugging the
> application this is invaluable. Running with a 100% overhead is
> equivalent to running with a computer 18 months old. Not that bad :)
> Again I understand that in some domains we are counting the CPU cycles,
> but this is not the majority of applications.

This is not the whole truth. I agree that overhead caused by run-time
checks is not a big deal. But that is not the problem in my view. Let they
be 0%! The real problem is that a check may fail while program crash is not
an option. This means that there must be some error handling. More errors
may happen at run-time more complex infrastructure one would require. Add
here unit tests for these errors etc.

It is a design problem and design problems are in order of magnitude more
expensive than any hardware.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-14  8:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-13  5:14 Buffer overflow Article - CACM adaworks
2005-11-13  7:35 ` tmoran
2005-11-13  8:49 ` Martin Krischik
2005-11-13 11:55   ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-11-13 14:58     ` Florian Weimer
2005-11-14 13:44       ` Marc A. Criley
2005-11-14 19:13     ` Martin Krischik
2005-11-13 15:02 ` Florian Weimer
2005-11-13 15:44 ` Stephen Leake
2005-11-14 14:40   ` adaworks
2005-11-13 23:57 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-11-14  6:51   ` Martin Dowie
2005-11-14 17:55     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-11-15  9:14       ` Martin Dowie
2005-11-14  7:09   ` Pascal Obry
2005-11-14  8:35     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2005-11-14 20:57       ` Simon Wright
2005-11-15  8:49         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-11-15 14:03           ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-11-15 15:14             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-11-15 22:32               ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-11-16  1:21                 ` Robert A Duff
2005-11-16  9:26                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-11-16 13:02                   ` adaworks
2005-11-17 11:13                     ` Martin Dowie
2005-11-14 17:58     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-11-14 18:44       ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-11-25  5:56       ` Christopher Browne
2005-11-26  1:31         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-11-27 21:36         ` adaworks
2005-11-28 12:12           ` Simon Clubley
2005-12-01  2:35           ` robin
2005-12-01  7:05             ` adaworks
2005-12-03 13:42               ` robin
2005-12-03 18:18                 ` adaworks
2005-12-12  1:23                   ` robin
2005-12-31  7:39                   ` robin
2005-12-31 17:03                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-01-01 12:12                     ` Martin Krischik
2006-01-01 23:12                       ` robin
2006-01-02  3:37                         ` jimmaureenrogers
2006-01-12 22:10                           ` robin
2006-01-03  9:52                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-01-12 22:10                           ` robin
2006-01-12 22:36                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-01-13 19:53                             ` Keith Thompson
2006-01-13 20:22                               ` Dan Nagle
2006-01-14 17:50                               ` Björn Persson
     [not found]                             ` <12ces1lv5dvm6pifdapj11o1hrtlm6ec7q@4ax.com>
2006-01-13 23:28                               ` robin
2005-11-30 15:27         ` robin
2005-11-14 10:17   ` Peter Amey
2005-11-29  8:16     ` Harald Korneliussen
2005-11-29 10:48       ` Peter Amey
2005-11-30 21:21       ` Brian May
2005-12-01  5:36         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-12-01  9:01           ` Harald Korneliussen
2005-12-01 11:21             ` Martin Dowie
2005-12-01 17:58             ` Jeffrey R. Carter
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