From: Shark8 <onewingedshark@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: The future of Spark . Spark 2014 : a wreckage
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:30:07 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2013-07-16T18:30:07-07:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e7de5753-5819-41a4-a40f-3d80c101bf03@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ks23dp$npd$1@loke.gir.dk>
On Monday, July 15, 2013 6:16:56 PM UTC-6, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> "Georg Bauhaus" <rm-host.bauhaus@maps.arcor.de> wrote in message
> news:984821833395507830.672948rm-host.bauhaus-maps.arcor.de@news.arcor.de...
> > "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
> >
> >> I don't see how adding optional exception contracts should disrupt
> >> anything.
> >
> > Aren't exceptions already part of contracts? Implied, though.
>
> Yes, but only for inbound contracts (preconditions and predicates). We need
> them for outbound contracts as well, without having to guess. And I agree
> with Dmitry that those need to be compile-time checked in the subprogram
> bodies. (Exactly how that's done has to be worked out, of course).
>
> procedure Op (x : in out T)
> with Post => Foo(x),
> Exception => Constraint_Error when not Foo(x);
> or something like that.
>
> Randy.
I think you and I talked about that idea (basically sets of exceptions) and I like the idea a lot (though not the particular syntax you were using, which is ok) -- I really like the idea you have for renaming the violation exception, in retrospect that would have been very desirable for constraint-aspect violations (pre-/post-conditions, particularly).
The one drawback from your proposal is that it makes you reiterate the condition, but with a negation, this could be a source of bugs. Even though it's a little less straightforward the following would circumvent that problem:
procedure Op (x : in out T)
with Post => (Constraint_Error at [not?] Foo(x));
which would reuse the keyword(s) AT [and NOT] in addition to preventing the unnecessary duplication. {The use of parenthesis could also be mandated that way the clauses [which are different constitutions] could be made/forced-distinct when they are to raise differing exceptions on violation.}
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2013-07-08 17:56 The future of Spark . Spark 2014 : a wreckage vincent.diemunsch
2013-07-08 19:24 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-08 20:59 ` Florian Weimer
2013-07-09 7:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 8:30 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-09 8:58 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 10:27 ` G.B.
2013-07-09 11:13 ` G.B.
2013-07-09 15:14 ` Adam Beneschan
2013-07-09 22:51 ` Robert A Duff
2013-07-10 7:49 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10 8:21 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-08 21:32 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 7:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 11:29 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-09 12:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 20:37 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-10 10:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10 23:21 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11 7:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-11 22:28 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-12 8:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-12 21:16 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-14 10:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-14 15:57 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-16 0:16 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-17 1:30 ` Shark8 [this message]
2013-07-17 23:08 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-18 7:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-19 4:36 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-16 0:13 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-16 8:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-16 22:13 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-17 7:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-17 23:26 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-18 7:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-19 4:32 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-19 7:16 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-20 5:32 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-20 9:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-12 1:01 ` Slow? Ada?? Bill Findlay
2013-07-09 7:57 ` The future of Spark . Spark 2014 : a wreckage Stefan.Lucks
2013-07-09 20:46 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-10 8:03 ` Stefan.Lucks
2013-07-10 12:46 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-10 23:10 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11 19:23 ` Stefan.Lucks
2013-07-12 0:21 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-12 9:12 ` Stefan.Lucks
2013-07-12 20:47 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-08-05 5:43 ` Paul Rubin
2013-07-10 12:19 ` vincent.diemunsch
2013-07-10 16:02 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-11 0:36 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11 6:19 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-11 23:11 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11 10:10 ` vincent.diemunsch
2013-07-11 14:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-12 0:07 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-12 0:00 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-12 7:25 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-12 20:07 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-12 14:23 ` Robert A Duff
2013-07-12 20:14 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11 23:50 ` Shark8
2013-07-08 23:18 ` Peter C. Chapin
2013-07-09 7:34 ` Stefan.Lucks
2013-07-09 15:21 ` Adam Beneschan
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