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From: MRE <Marc.Enzmann@web.de>
Subject: Re: Why so hard to come up with a simple embedded Ada system?
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:09:14 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2010-07-19T04:09:14-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e7d75706-edea-480b-b7d9-ac7aa23fb2d7@g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4c41da73$0$6890$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net

On 17 Jul., 18:29, Georg Bauhaus <rm-host.bauh...@maps.futureapps.de>
wrote:
> On 7/17/10 10:45 AM, MRE wrote:
>
> > Personally I have a
> > project up and
> > running where three of my students write code in Ada for AVR (8-Bit
> > and 32-Bit).
> > You can find decent Ada cross-compilers for both and that's what I
> > use.
>
> > If you ask me however to do a similar thing for say MSP430, sorry I
> > can't. I don't
> > have a clue how to generate the cross-compiler for Ada and I don't
> > know how to
> > write / adapt the Ravenscar-Runtime. Furthermore I just don't have the
> > time to lern
> > it and I lack the ressources to have my students do it.
>
> Is there, in your view, a way to approach the subject as
> a cooperative effort, touchy as it may be, with the simpler
> goal of gradually improving an AVR run-time system and the tools?
> Maybe making it portable where possible so more vendors
> become interested?
>
> If PR noise and bureaucratic overhead have shown to be
> counterproductive, maybe occasional produce from here
> and there is more effective in helping the effort catch on.
> An AVR teaching environment could then become visible even
> on the radar of those departments where a preference is
> for more abstract computer models.

In fact yes. I am currently trying to get a tool vendor to support
a research proposal in that direction. Still: my ressources are
restricted. Sigh!



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-07-19 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-14  4:55 Why so hard to come up with a simple embedded Ada system? usenet
2010-07-14  5:33 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-07-14  6:27   ` usenet
2010-07-14 18:05     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-07-14  7:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-07-17  8:45   ` MRE
2010-07-17  9:46     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-07-19 11:06       ` MRE
2010-07-19 17:34         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-07-19 18:39           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-07-17 16:29     ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-07-18  0:26       ` usenet
2010-07-18 10:15         ` Simon Wright
2010-07-18 19:26           ` usenet
2010-07-18 11:48         ` jonathan
2010-07-18 15:26           ` Britt Snodgrass
2010-07-18 15:50             ` Britt Snodgrass
2010-07-19 23:00         ` Brian Drummond
2010-07-19 11:09       ` MRE [this message]
2010-07-14  8:03 ` anon
2010-07-14 11:43 ` jonathan
2010-07-14 12:36 ` jonathan
2010-07-14 12:46 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-07-14 19:56 ` jonathan
2010-07-15  1:36 ` Steve D
2010-07-15  9:50   ` Alex R. Mosteo
2010-07-17 14:25 ` Lucretia
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