Watch out Ada, here comes the new and "safe" C language

Watch out Ada, here comes the new and "safe" C language

[Nasser M. Abbasi]

fyi;

A new competition for Ada in safety software has been released:

"C11: A New C Standard Aiming at Safer Programming"

http://www.sys-con.com/node/2302835

(it even has Multithreading now !)

--Nasser

Re: Watch out Ada, here comes the new and "safe" C language

[Robert A Duff]

Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> writes:

> 	"Aiming" is the key word... According to the blog, the unsafe string
> manipulation functions are still part of the standard -- making it a
> matter of programmer discipline to avoid using them in favor of the
> newer "safer" routines.

Yeah, but it's worse than that.  Compiler warnings could remind people
to use the "safer" versions, but the "safer" routines aren't really
safe, because the programmer is responsible for keeping track of the
array length, and passing it in calls.

- Bob

Re: Watch out Ada, here comes the new and "safe" C language

[mjsilva]

On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:22:29 PM UTC-7, Robert A Duff wrote:
> Dennis Lee Bieber <w...com> writes:
> 
> > 	"Aiming" is the key word... According to the blog, the unsafe string
> > manipulation functions are still part of the standard -- making it a
> > matter of programmer discipline to avoid using them in favor of the
> > newer "safer" routines.
> 
> Yeah, but it's worse than that.  Compiler warnings could remind people
> to use the "safer" versions, but the "safer" routines aren't really
> safe, because the programmer is responsible for keeping track of the
> array length, and passing it in calls.
 
Well sure, because all the evidence shows that humans are much better at such housekeeping than computers are.  I thought everybody knew that.

Re: Watch out Ada, here comes the new and "safe" C language

[gautier_niouzes]

> "C11: A New C Standard Aiming at Safer Programming"

Surely it will be as successful as all previous attempts to "add" safety to C ;-).
Something that should be evident is that it brings nothing.
If you have an old car with faulty wheels, adding a fifth wheel won't make the car safer, whatever the quality of the new wheel.
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