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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Ada exception block does NOT work?
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:23:47 +0200
Date: 2005-08-18T17:23:47+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e6y6xb7nnbno$.1qsj0dlmlhz31$.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 430489E2.2070601@mailinator.com

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:15:14 +0200, Alex R. Mosteo wrote:

> Jean-Pierre Rosen wrote:
>> Maciej Sobczak a �crit :
> 
>>> Note that those other languages can throw regular objects as 
>>> exceptions, thus enabling polymorphism when they are handled. One 
>>> could say that *this* is the point of good integration and that Ada's 
>>> exceptions are a conceptual patch that did not integrate with the rest 
>>> of the object model, leading to two separate spaces of language 
>>> entities instead of only one.
>> 
>> This boils down to the (controversial) question of how much information 
>> should be associated to an exception. It could be the programmer's 
>> responsibility to store the context when an exception is raised, rather 
>> than propagating it with the exception. In Ada83, an exception had just 
>> an identity, and Jean Ichbiah (the father of Ada) claimed that he 
>> regretted having more than one exception. In Ada95, a string can be 
>> associated to an exception. In C++, any object can be thrown, while in 
>> Java only an object belonging to the throwable class. Note also that 
>> augmenting the quantity of information associated to an exception has a 
>> performance cost, which may be important for a real-time oriented 
>> language like Ada. So, you see the question is quite open...
> 
> I think the crux in this last point: you don't want that, once an 
> exception is being raised, you fail to propagate it because it can't be 
> allocated due to exhausted memory, for example.

Another problem is that the type of the exception object may leave its
scope while exception propagation. It might not be the case in C++ which
has it global, but it is in Ada.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-18 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-16  8:48 Ada exception block does NOT work? bubble
2005-08-16  9:00 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-08-16  9:32   ` bubble
2005-08-16  9:42     ` gautier_niouzes
2005-08-16 15:25       ` Frank J. Lhota
2005-08-16 16:58         ` Svesse
2005-08-16 17:48           ` Björn Persson
2005-08-16 18:12             ` Svesse
2005-08-16 18:17           ` Frank J. Lhota
2005-08-17 10:53         ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-08-17 11:34           ` Anders Wirzenius
2005-08-17 18:08             ` Björn Persson
2005-08-17 19:05               ` Randy Brukardt
2005-08-18 15:58               ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-08-16 12:30     ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-08-16 17:39       ` Björn Persson
2005-08-16 19:43         ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-08-17  1:39     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-08-17  7:22       ` Maciej Sobczak
2005-08-18  1:05         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-08-18  8:44           ` Maciej Sobczak
2005-08-18 11:40             ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-08-18 12:56               ` Maciej Sobczak
2005-08-18 14:42                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-08-18 18:03                 ` Martin Krischik
2005-08-18 13:15               ` Alex R. Mosteo
2005-08-18 15:23                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2005-08-18 18:00                 ` Martin Krischik
2005-08-18 16:13             ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-08-18 16:38               ` Hyman Rosen
2005-08-18 18:07                 ` jimmaureenrogers
2005-08-18 18:44                   ` Hyman Rosen
2005-08-18 20:52                     ` Frank J. Lhota
2005-08-19  0:57                     ` jimmaureenrogers
2005-08-19  7:52                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-08-19 14:41                       ` Robert A Duff
2005-08-19 17:48                   ` Martin Krischik
2005-08-19 14:58                 ` Robert A Duff
2005-08-18 17:54             ` Martin Krischik
2005-08-18 20:56             ` Robert A Duff
2005-08-18 22:01               ` Hyman Rosen
2005-08-19  2:35               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-08-20 15:28                 ` Robert A Duff
2005-08-20 20:24                   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-08-20 21:34                     ` Robert A Duff
2005-08-20 22:47                       ` Frank J. Lhota
2005-08-20 23:34                         ` Robert A Duff
2005-08-21 11:18                           ` Simon Wright
2005-08-21 16:59                             ` tmoran
2005-08-21 19:48                               ` Simon Wright
2005-08-21 16:07                           ` Frank J. Lhota
2005-08-21 16:23                           ` Martin Krischik
2005-08-21  1:12                       ` Björn Persson
2005-08-21  9:01                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-08-21 16:14                       ` Martin Krischik
2005-08-21  4:02                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-08-19 12:34               ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-08-19 17:29                 ` Martin Krischik
2005-08-19 18:14                   ` Frank J. Lhota
2005-08-21 16:02                     ` Martin Krischik
2005-08-21 16:48                       ` Frank J. Lhota
2005-08-22 15:51                         ` Martin Krischik
2005-08-23  0:32                       ` Larry Elmore
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2005-08-23 18:09                           ` Martin Krischik
2005-08-23 19:50                             ` C history Björn Persson
2005-08-27 21:09                             ` Ada exception block does NOT work? Dave Thompson
2005-08-24  1:07                           ` Larry Elmore
2005-08-24  2:36                             ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-08-25  0:14                               ` Larry Elmore
2005-08-26  2:44                                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-08-24 16:44                             ` Martin Krischik
2005-08-22  8:12                     ` Hyman Rosen
2005-08-18 21:15             ` Robert A Duff
2005-08-19 12:00               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-08-17 20:24 ` Simon Wright
2005-08-18 19:36   ` Björn Persson
2005-08-18 21:07     ` Simon Wright
2005-08-22 10:47 ` bubble
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