Irony?

Irony?

[(see below)]

Does anyone else find it ironic that requests for assistance with
"user-friendly" IDEs seem to rival requests for help with Ada itself?
-- 
Bill Findlay
<surname><forename> chez blueyonder.co.uk

Re: Irony?

[Dmitry A. Kazakov]

On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 19:04:47 +0100, (see below) wrote:

> Does anyone else find it ironic that requests for assistance with
> "user-friendly" IDEs seem to rival requests for help with Ada itself?

No, because if there indeed are questions to the GPS/gpr design, compared
to the Visual Studio or Workbench GPS is as Ada to C.

Maybe the irony is in how many man-years were burnt out for the Visual
Studio compared to the GPS?

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

Re: Irony?

[(see below)]

On 01/08/2010 19:21, in article 6lutt5yuljus$.yp56imm36exb$.dlg@40tude.net,
"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:

> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 19:04:47 +0100, (see below) wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone else find it ironic that requests for assistance with
>> "user-friendly" IDEs seem to rival requests for help with Ada itself?
> 
> No, because if there indeed are questions to the GPS/gpr design, compared
> to the Visual Studio or Workbench GPS is as Ada to C.
> 
> Maybe the irony is in how many man-years were burnt out for the Visual
> Studio compared to the GPS?

There seem to be as many about AdaGIDE.

-- 
Bill Findlay
<surname><forename> chez blueyonder.co.uk

Re: Irony?

[Dmitry A. Kazakov]

On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 23:32:44 +0100, (see below) wrote:

> On 01/08/2010 19:21, in article 6lutt5yuljus$.yp56imm36exb$.dlg@40tude.net,
> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 19:04:47 +0100, (see below) wrote:
>> 
>>> Does anyone else find it ironic that requests for assistance with
>>> "user-friendly" IDEs seem to rival requests for help with Ada itself?
>> 
>> No, because if there indeed are questions to the GPS/gpr design, compared
>> to the Visual Studio or Workbench GPS is as Ada to C.
>> 
>> Maybe the irony is in how many man-years were burnt out for the Visual
>> Studio compared to the GPS?
> 
> There seem to be as many about AdaGIDE.

I liked AdaGIDE, but GPS is sufficiently more comfortable now.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

Re: Irony?

[Warren]

On Aug 1, 2:04 pm, "(see below)" <yaldni...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Does anyone else find it ironic that requests for assistance with
> "user-friendly" IDEs seem to rival requests for help with Ada itself?
> --
> Bill Findlay
> <surname><forename> chez blueyonder.co.uk

Ya, I was thinking about that the other day when I was trying to
use GPS. I found it much easier to go back to the Makefile and
emacs. :)

Warren

Re: Irony?

[casp_1986]

On Aug 4, 12:53 pm, Warren <ve3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 1, 2:04 pm, "(see below)" <yaldni...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone else find it ironic that requests for assistance with
> > "user-friendly" IDEs seem to rival requests for help with Ada itself?
> > --
> > Bill Findlay
> > <surname><forename> chez blueyonder.co.uk
>
> Ya, I was thinking about that the other day when I was trying to
> use GPS. I found it much easier to go back to the Makefile and
> emacs. :)
>
> Warren

I rather like GPS (the GPL edition) and have used AdaGide in the
past.  The only problem I have with the GPS editor is using the delete
key, which I seem to use a lot.  I'm not sure if its the editor or a
problem with my cordless keyboard but sometimes when deleting the
cursor skips left left a few characters and starts deleting the wrong
characters.  I suspect there is a "smart" delete function in the
editor that is trying to predict what I want to do.

GPS has a lot of features I don't use or haven't found a reason to
use.  I really like the ability to look up function/procedure calls
"on the fly".  Wish I had something like that 20 years ago when I used
to work surrounded by stacks of manuals.

I confess that I've never used EMACS despite some 30 years of writing
code.  I vaguely recall the first time I tried it that it reminded of
the original Wordstar editor.

Paul

Re: Irony?

[Warren]

On Aug 4, 12:49 am, casp_1986 <pcas1...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> On Aug 4, 12:53 pm, Warren <ve3...@gmail.com> wrote:
...
> I confess that I've never used EMACS despite some 30 years of writing
> code.  I vaguely recall the first time I tried it that it reminded of
> the original Wordstar editor.
>
> Paul

Once you go emacs, you never go back. ;-)

Warren