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From: aek@vib.usr.pu.ru (Alexander Kopilovitch)
Subject: Re: F22 Raptor in slashdot.org
Date: 6 Aug 2003 17:27:03 -0700
Date: 2003-08-07T00:27:04+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e2e5731a.0308061627.15230f32@posting.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ZpyXa.64731$Ho3.8736@sccrnsc03

tmoran@acm.org wrote:

>   Programmers tend to be smart and try very hard to be logical and still
> have an error rate of x/SLOC.  Mathematicians try *really* hard to create
> logically correct proofs, yet a published result is still sometimes found
> to be incorrect.  Is there any reason to believe that decision makers,
> managers, military officers, politicians or any other group has a
> substantially lower error rate?

Generally yes, one may have such a reason: members of the latter group quite
often are backed with a staff of aids and/or advisors of various kind.

Then, the notion of an error for all 3 metioned groups is different. It may
surprise you, but even for mathematicians this is not always simple: for example
consider Euler's claim that the sum of all natural numbers is equal to (-1/12).
Was that an error? What seems a nonsense in 18th century and clearly an error
in 19th century, appeared a brilliant prophecy in 20th century. Well, it is true
that such a case is very rare in mathematics; but for decision makers, magagers,
politicians and even for military officers this isn't so rare: explicit decision
may seem obviously wrong, but its consequences appear surprisingly good - so,
was there really an error?

Finally, what really matters here is not errors themselves, but excuses
for the members of the latter group. Excuses not only for the front-line
error-makers, and even not for their staff members, but most surely for their
"human programmers" - those who educated them, drilled them and consulted them.



Alexander Kopilovitch                      aek@vib.usr.pu.ru
Saint-Petersburg
Russia



  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-07  0:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-02  2:11 F22 Raptor in slashdot.org Dale Stanbrough
2003-08-03 18:09 ` Robert Love
2003-08-05  2:29   ` Richard Riehle
2003-08-05 11:47     ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-08-04 12:49 ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-08-04 12:42   ` Wojtek Narczynski
2003-08-04 20:02     ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-08-05  0:28     ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-05  0:42     ` rleif
2003-08-05  0:53       ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-05  5:30         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-08-05  6:47           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-05  7:23           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-08-05 11:29             ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-08-05 22:04             ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-06  8:14               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-08-06 11:33                 ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-08-05  6:53         ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-04 14:04   ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-04 19:58     ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-08-04 19:24       ` tmoran
2003-08-07  0:27         ` Alexander Kopilovitch [this message]
2003-09-07 13:54 ` Adrian Hoe
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2003-08-05  1:37 ` sk
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