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From: aek@vib.usr.pu.ru (Alexander Kopilovitch)
Subject: Re: The old "Object.Method" syntax debate
Date: 28 May 2003 17:55:39 -0700
Date: 2003-05-29T00:55:39+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e2e5731a.0305281655.6cf38e6b@posting.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3ed46d7a.994560@news.btclick.com

>>The name space for attributes is too important language resource, it should
>>not be given out freely for general use.
>>  How about another character instead of apostrophe (or dot) for user-defined
>>attributes? For example, there is quite popular # (read "join" for this purpose):
>> Object#Operation 
>>("controlling object" somehow associates with "base" -:)
>
>Nah - that's ugly :-)

Well, perhaps Microsoft wouldn't say so -:)

  Anyway, I just imagined another notation for that purpose, and it seems
worth of discussion: dot-qualified attribute Method, i.e.

  Object'Method.Operation

for example:

  type T is ... ;
  function F(P : T; Q : Integer) return Integer;
  X : T;
  Actual_Q : Integer;
  ...

  X'Method.F(Actual_Q);

For me, this notation looks quite straight. Indeed, one may think that the
attribute Method returns a record -- method table, like in C++ code.
  (If you will argue that the attribute part in this notation is obviously
redundant, I will reply that you English all the time use articles "a" and
"the", which seem no less redundant for Russian native speaker, like me -:) .

  Furthemore, with this approach we may easily provide a denotation for the
corresponding abstraction, that is, unified notation for a component and
a method; all we need for this is another attribute Property, which should be
used the same way:

for both

  type T is ... ;
  function F(P : T) return Integer;

and

  type T is record 
     F : Integer;
     ...
  end record;

we can write:

  X : T;
  R : Integer;
  ...

  R := X'Property.F;


(This approach does not provide assignment to a property; for writable
properties we can rely upon controlled data components.)



Alexander Kopilovitch                      aek@vib.usr.pu.ru
Saint-Petersburg
Russia



  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-29  0:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-21 15:26 The old "Object.Method" syntax debate Marc A. Criley
2003-05-21 15:47 ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-21 16:21   ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2003-05-21 16:34     ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-21 16:43       ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-21 17:13         ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-21 17:13         ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-21 18:21           ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-21 19:43             ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-21 20:36               ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-22  3:24                 ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-22  2:31             ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-05-21 18:32           ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-22  9:41       ` Xavier Nicollin
2003-05-22 14:56         ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-22 16:02           ` Xavier Nicollin
2003-05-23  2:56         ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-21 16:50     ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-21 16:36   ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-21 16:55     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-05-21 18:03       ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-21 18:17         ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-21 18:22           ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-21 20:53             ` tmoran
2003-05-22  2:11               ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-22  4:04                 ` Dale Stanbrough
2003-05-22  7:34         ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-05-23  0:35         ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-21 17:02   ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-21 17:55   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-21 19:54   ` Bobby D. Bryant
2003-05-21 20:37     ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-22 14:32   ` Rodrigo Garcia
2003-05-22 15:39     ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-23  7:49       ` Rodrigo Garcia
2003-05-23  8:34         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-23 18:35           ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-05-25  5:38             ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-05-25  9:13               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-27  9:50                 ` John McCabe
2003-05-27 16:02                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-28  8:24                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-28 12:36                     ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-28 13:14                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-28 15:01                         ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-29  9:17                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-30 10:41                         ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-30 20:13                           ` Randy Brukardt
2003-06-02  9:11                             ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-31  9:29                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-28  3:02               ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-05-28  8:07                 ` John McCabe
2003-05-29  0:55                   ` Alexander Kopilovitch [this message]
2003-05-22 17:03     ` Gautier Write-only
2003-05-23 14:43   ` Steve
2003-05-23 14:51     ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-23 15:21     ` John McCabe
2003-05-23 23:43     ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-25  5:42     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-25 14:40       ` Steve
2003-05-25 21:21         ` Gautier Write-only
2003-05-23  7:58 ` John McCabe
2003-05-23  8:39   ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-23 15:12     ` John McCabe
2003-05-23 15:18       ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-23 17:32     ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-27  9:09       ` John McCabe
2003-05-28 11:47       ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-05-28 16:14         ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-28 18:23           ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-05-23 20:45 ` steve_H
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-23 17:39 Lionel.DRAGHI
2003-05-23 17:59 Lionel.DRAGHI
2003-05-27  9:17 ` John McCabe
2003-06-03 17:23 Lionel.DRAGHI
2003-06-04  8:27 ` John McCabe
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