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From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)
Subject: Re: Ok sorry, it is just a book gives no feedback.
Date: 5 Jan 2001 23:05:52 -0500
Date: 2001-01-05T23:05:52-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dxC7xviP+UiB@eisner.decus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ZZq56.1574$xo3.422321@homer.alpha.net

In article <ZZq56.1574$xo3.422321@homer.alpha.net>, "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com> writes:
> Robert Dewar wrote in message <934j5c$eu9$1@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>>In article <93421h$2ju$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
>>That's the point, it is easy to make vague statements about
>>"side effects considered harmful", but it is quite another to
>>rigorously define what you mean by side effects.
>>
>>You do NOT want to tell people that instrumenting functions is
>>for some peculiar reason undesirable, or that memo functions
>>are undesirable (though of course in the multi-tasking case,
>>you have to worry about reentrancy in both these cases).
> 
> Indeed, that is why pragma Pure is so hard to use in practice: because
> you can't instrument or otherwise debug code controlled by it. About all
> you can do is remove the pragma, but that often makes the clients of the
> package illegal. Thus debugging these things can be horrible.

Is it the case that implementations are forbidden to allow debugger
breakpoints in code controlled by pragma Pure ?

I would think that would be well beyond what the Standard should
control.



  reply	other threads:[~2001-01-06  4:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-12-31 14:18 Ok sorry, it is just a book gives no feedback Mark Pagdin
2000-12-31 16:56 ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-31 16:57 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-01 11:03 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-01-02  9:23 ` Newsgroup cla (was: Ok sorry, it is just a book gives no feedback.) Anders Wirzenius
2001-01-02 10:44   ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-02 13:21     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-01-02 12:45   ` Andrew Hately
2001-01-02 13:25     ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-02 22:26 ` Ok sorry, it is just a book gives no feedback John English
2001-01-03  6:24 ` Nick Roberts
2001-01-04 13:14   ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-04 15:49     ` n_brunot
2001-01-04 17:09       ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-05  8:53         ` n_brunot
2001-01-05 13:45           ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-05 21:23             ` Randy Brukardt
2001-01-06  4:05               ` Larry Kilgallen [this message]
2001-01-06 17:11                 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-06 20:26                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-01-06 22:40                     ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-07  1:12                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-01-07  4:19                         ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-07 17:12                           ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-01-08 12:26                             ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-08 12:57                             ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-01-08 15:01                     ` Stephen Leake
2001-01-08 15:58                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-09 21:13                       ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-01-06 19:46               ` Laurent Guerby
2001-01-06 20:36                 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-07 13:09                   ` Laurent Guerby
2001-01-07 15:56                     ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-07 16:25                       ` Laurent Guerby
2001-01-07 15:58                     ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-07 17:19                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-01-06  7:13           ` Simon Wright
2001-01-07 16:00             ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-07 17:16             ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-01-04 17:11       ` Robert Dewar
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