From: Szymon Guz <alpha@skynet.org.pl_WITHOUT>
Subject: Re: GNAT GPL Edition Maintenance and Upgrades
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:35:32 +0200
Date: 2005-10-25T18:35:32+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <djlmrk$2434$1@node1.news.atman.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ek697ga5.fsf@willow.rfc1149.net>
Samuel Tardieu napisał(a):
>>>>>>"Jeff" == Jeff Creem <jcreem@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>
> Jeff> No. Actually, what it shows is that a large number of developers
> Jeff> are not lawyers and don't understand software licensing so when
> Jeff> licensing terms are brought to the forefront, they get confused
> Jeff> and upset.
>
> It also shows that AdaCore changed their mind and strategy
> completely. Here is an excerpt of a comp.lang.ada post from Robert
> Dewar (6 May 1999):
>
> "In fact this is far from a theoretical situation, it is quite fine
> legally for someone to distribute GPL'ed software for price $x,
> possibly $0, and charge you a bundle for a separate license that
> allows you to use the same software in a proprietary context. Indeed
> it is my understanding (and I apologize in advance if this is an
> incorrect understanding) that Cygwin is distributed under EXACTLY
> this split model.
>
> One may argue over whether such a distribution model is a good idea
> (at ACT we prefer a completely clean situation with no such dual
> licensing, which is why we use the modified GPL for runtime stuff),
> but it is absolutely 100% consistent with the GPL. Indeed I have
> heard people argue that it is appropriate, because it gives full
> access to those writing free software, and penalizes those writing
> proprietary software, which to some people seems an appropriate
> situation :-)"
>
> Note the "at ACT we prefer a completely clean situation with no such dual
> licensing, which is why we use the modified GPL for runtime stuff".
>
> Well, it looks like the "clean situation" is not the preferred one
> anymore.
>
> Sam
Another problem can be the price that ACT wants for GNAT. About a year
ago I wrote a mail to ACT and asked about the price. The answer was that
I cannot buy licence for one seat, I can buy for at least 5 seats. They
offered me all others products (for about 20% of their normal price) and
GNAT Pro for 5 seats just for about 30 000 euros. For many companies
this is too much as they can have e.g. Delphi|Builder professional for
1000 euros with much more components.
szymon guz
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Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-10-04 20:15 GNAT GPL Edition Maintenance and Upgrades Marc A. Criley
2005-10-05 8:04 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-05 8:58 ` michael bode
2005-10-05 9:39 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-05 11:10 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-05 12:50 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-05 14:06 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-05 14:40 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-05 15:38 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-05 16:22 ` Poul-Erik Andreasen
2005-10-05 18:28 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-10-13 21:13 ` wojtek
2005-10-05 14:06 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2005-10-05 15:02 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-05 21:25 ` Björn Persson
2005-10-06 1:18 ` David Trudgett
2005-10-06 7:18 ` David Trudgett
2005-10-06 8:03 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-06 8:53 ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-05 12:25 ` Marc A. Criley
2005-10-05 18:17 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-05 18:28 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-10-06 18:20 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-06 19:20 ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-06 22:27 ` Simon Wright
2005-10-07 5:25 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-07 5:54 ` Simon Wright
2005-10-07 18:43 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-08 6:18 ` Simon Wright
2005-10-07 11:57 ` Simon Clubley
2005-10-07 12:29 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-07 12:50 ` Jeff Creem
2005-10-25 15:44 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-10-25 16:35 ` Szymon Guz [this message]
2005-10-26 13:43 ` Martin Krischik
2005-10-25 20:47 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-25 21:13 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-10-25 22:29 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-25 22:41 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-10-26 10:53 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-26 10:12 ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-27 11:02 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-27 13:39 ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-27 14:05 ` Szymon Guz
2005-10-27 14:25 ` Pascal Obry
2005-10-27 15:50 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-27 16:59 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-27 17:09 ` Szymon Guz
2005-10-27 17:33 ` Pascal Obry
2005-10-27 19:18 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-27 19:49 ` Szymon Guz
2005-10-27 19:14 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-28 6:41 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-10-30 14:17 ` Martin Krischik
2005-10-30 17:44 ` Jeff Creem
2005-10-30 19:53 ` Anh Vo
2005-10-28 5:10 ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-28 11:18 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-10-28 11:47 ` Maciej Sobczak
2005-10-28 12:34 ` none
2005-10-28 12:35 ` Emmanuel Briot
2005-10-28 12:35 ` Martin Dowie
2005-10-28 14:14 ` Maciej Sobczak
2005-10-28 21:35 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-29 12:25 ` Jeff Creem
2005-10-28 5:41 ` Steve Whalen
2005-10-28 8:38 ` Hyman Rosen
2005-10-28 10:20 ` Niklas Holsti
2005-10-28 18:07 ` Michael Bode
2005-10-31 14:58 ` Marc A. Criley
2005-11-01 16:54 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-11-01 16:40 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-11-02 16:15 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-11-02 17:36 ` Steffen Huber
2005-11-02 19:08 ` Martin Dowie
2005-11-02 19:09 ` Stefan Bellon
2005-10-28 18:52 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-11-02 21:14 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-10-07 23:11 ` Björn Persson
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