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From: dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar)
Subject: Re: Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement
Date: 1998/02/16
Date: 1998-02-16T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dewar.887669672@merv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.BSF.3.96.980216123342.22587A-100000@shell5.ba.best.com


Brian says

<<While this is not a field I know very well, I was under the impression
that it is in general easier to do a good job optimizing Ada than C or
C++, due to the restrictions on access types amongst others. Was I
mistaken?

Also, the C++ grammar is tricky, you could almost say that it has made
parsing a reasonable research topic again :-).
>>

The question was about the difficulty of writing compilers. There are
some things that are easier to optimize in Ada, and somethings that are
harder (e.g. the result of separaqtely compiling subunits).

But that is more about the results of the compiler, rather than the
difficulty of writing a compiler. To a reasonable first approximation, 
writing an Ada compiler is about as easy/hard as writing a C++ compiler.

As for C++ grammar being tricky, not really, parsing is a very small part
of the problem (and relatively easy) in both cases, I don't see a difference
here of any significance.





  reply	other threads:[~1998-02-16  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-02-15  0:00 Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-15  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-16  0:00   ` Brian Rogoff
1998-02-16  0:00     ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1998-02-16  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff
1998-02-17  0:00         ` Andi Kleen
1998-02-17  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
1998-02-17  0:00       ` Geert Bosch
1998-02-19  0:00         ` Parsing Ada and C++ Steve Furlong
1998-02-16  0:00   ` Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-16  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-16  0:00       ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-17  0:00         ` Simon Wright
1998-02-18  0:00           ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-18  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-18  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-19  0:00               ` Stanley R. Allen
1998-02-20  0:00                 ` Markus Kuhn
1998-02-18  0:00             ` Stanley R. Allen
1998-03-05  0:00             ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-02-17  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-18  0:00           ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-19  0:00             ` John English
1998-02-22  0:00               ` Luis Espinal
1998-02-22  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-23  0:00                   ` Nick Roberts
1998-02-24  0:00                     ` Jonas Nygren
1998-02-24  0:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-02-25  0:00                         ` Nick Roberts
1998-02-25  0:00                         ` Keith Thompson
1998-02-20  0:00             ` Markus Kuhn
1998-02-20  0:00               ` Laurent Guerby
1998-03-03  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1998-03-03  0:00                 ` Stanley R. Allen
1998-02-19  0:00           ` Ada's complexity Steve Furlong
1998-02-20  0:00             ` Markus Kuhn
1998-02-17  0:00         ` Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement Joe Gwinn
1998-02-17  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-18  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-02-18  0:00             ` vonhend
1998-02-18  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-18  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-22  0:00               ` Simon Wright
1998-02-18  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-02-17  0:00             ` Dan Moran
1998-02-18  0:00             ` Joe Gwinn
1998-02-16  0:00     ` Jon S Anthony
1998-02-16  0:00     ` Brian Rogoff
1998-02-16  0:00     ` Ralph Paul
1998-02-16  0:00 ` nabbasi
1998-02-16  0:00   ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-16  0:00     ` nabbasi
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