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From: dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar)
Subject: Re: Beware: Rep spec on an enumeration type causes code explosion
Date: 1997/12/11
Date: 1997-12-11T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dewar.881901936@merv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 97121110170208@psavax.pwfl.com


<<    I'll give you a good reason why getting too smart about rep clause
    implementation might be a Bad Thing. Suppose I implement an
    enumeral type with a "confirming" rep clause because I know I'm
    dealing with a real live hardware interface or message format and
    want to make it clear that the representation for this given
    enumeration is critical. I compile & run and my timing comes out a
    given way because your compiler was smart enough to detect that my
    representation was conveniently matching the positions. So far, so
    good. At a later date the hardware or message format changes to
    include some new bit patterns which create holes in the
    representation and now when I compile I get a significantly
    different implementation for the enumeration and a corresponding
    change in performance. This is a satisfactory definition of the
    technical term: "Bad Thing".

    Sometimes poor performance isn't as bad a Bad Thing as
    inconsistent performance can be.
>>

I don't buy this. A representation with holes is substantially and
fundamentally different from one that does not have holes. Your 
inconsistency problem would still arise if the original program had
not bothered with a rep clause on the grounds that it had no effect.
Surely you don't think all enumeration types should be made horribly
inefficient, just so that in case you add a rep clause with holes
your program does not slow down!





  reply	other threads:[~1997-12-11  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-12-11  0:00 Beware: Rep spec on an enumeration type causes code explosion Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
1997-12-11  0:00 ` Robert Dewar [this message]
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1997-12-11  0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
1997-12-09  0:00 tmoran
1997-12-05  0:00 Joe Gwinn
1997-12-06  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-08  0:00   ` Joe Gwinn
1997-12-06  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-08  0:00   ` Joe Gwinn
1997-12-09  0:00     ` Stanley R. Allen
1997-12-06  0:00 ` David Marshall
1997-12-06  0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1997-12-06  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-06  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-06  0:00   ` Matthew Heaney
1997-12-06  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1997-12-06  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-06  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-08  0:00   ` Joe Gwinn
1997-12-08  0:00     ` Mats Weber
1997-12-09  0:00     ` Geert Bosch
1997-12-10  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-09  0:00     ` Tucker Taft
1997-12-09  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1997-12-10  0:00         ` Charles Hixson
1997-12-10  0:00       ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1997-12-10  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-10  0:00       ` Ken Garlington
1997-12-11  0:00         ` John G. Volan
1997-12-11  0:00           ` Ken Garlington
1997-12-12  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
1997-12-12  0:00               ` Ken Garlington
1997-12-16  0:00                 ` John G. Volan
1997-12-17  0:00                   ` Ken Garlington
1997-12-12  0:00           ` Joe Gwinn
1997-12-12  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-16  0:00             ` John G. Volan
1997-12-17  0:00               ` Joe Gwinn
1997-12-17  0:00                 ` John G. Volan
1997-12-18  0:00                   ` Joe Gwinn
1997-12-17  0:00               ` Ken Garlington
1997-12-12  0:00           ` Alan E & Carmel J Brain
1997-12-12  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-15  0:00               ` Tucker Taft
1997-12-16  0:00                 ` Brian Rogoff
1997-12-10  0:00       ` Stephen Leake
1997-12-14  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-10  0:00       ` Stanley R. Allen
1997-12-14  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-11  0:00       ` Rakesh Malhotra
1997-12-11  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
1997-12-12  0:00           ` Samuel Tardieu
1997-12-12  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-12  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-12  0:00           ` Rakesh Malhotra
1997-12-14  0:00         ` Alan E & Carmel J Brain
1997-12-12  0:00       ` Joe Gwinn
1997-12-15  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-16  0:00           ` Joe Gwinn
1997-12-16  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-06  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-06  0:00 ` Corey Minyard
1997-12-08  0:00   ` Joe Gwinn
1997-12-10  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-06  0:00 ` Kevin D. Heatwole
     [not found]   ` <dewar.881478386@merv>
1997-12-07  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-09  0:00   ` Jim Gleason
1997-12-07  0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
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