From: dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar)
Subject: Re: fixed point vs floating point
Date: 1997/11/23
Date: 1997-11-23T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dewar.880302541@merv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mheaney-ya023680002311970203250001@news.ni.net
Matthew says
<<Remember that thread a few months back about floating point comparison? As
Robert reminded us, you have to know what you're doing when you use
floating point arithmetic. I was trying to avoid floating point types,
because I'm not a numerical analyst, and don't want to just *hope* my
floating point calculations produce a correct result. I want to *know*
they're correct. My error analysis is simpler if use a fixed point type,
right?
If my abstraction calls for a real type having an absolute error and not a
relative error, then clearly a fixed point type is called for, even if it's
less efficient, right? Isn't it always true that we should code for
correctness first, by using a type that directly models the abstraction,
and then optimize only if necessary? Are you making an exception to this
rule for fixed point types?>>
When Robert was reminding you that you need to know what you are doing
when using Floating-Point arithmetic, he did not for a moment mean to say
that somehow the problem is trivial in fixed-point arithmetic. Computing
trig functions in limited precision fixed-point and retaining sufficient
accruacy is a VERY hard problem.
Note that neither fixed-point nor floating-point models the abstraction,
since the abstraction is real! The only difference is whether the error
control is relative or absolute. FOr some purposes relative error is
*easier* to analyze than *absolute* error, but there is no sense in which
fixed-point is somehow a more accurate abstract representation of real
than flaoting-point!
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Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1997-11-22 0:00 fixed point vs floating point Matthew Heaney
1997-11-22 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1997-11-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-11-22 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-11-23 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1997-11-23 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1997-11-25 0:00 ` John A. Limpert
1997-11-25 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-11-25 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-11-23 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-11-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1997-11-24 0:00 ` Herman Rubin
1997-11-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-11-25 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1997-11-25 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-11-25 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1997-11-25 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-11-26 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1997-11-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-01 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1997-12-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-01 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1997-12-03 0:00 ` robin
1997-11-25 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-11-26 0:00 ` William A Whitaker
1997-11-24 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1997-11-24 0:00 ` Vince Del Vecchio
1997-11-24 0:00 ` Vince Del Vecchio
1997-12-03 0:00 ` robin
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2011-09-29 10:49 ` AdaMagica
2011-09-29 13:38 ` Martin
2011-09-30 10:17 ` Stephen Leake
2011-09-30 16:25 ` tmoran
2011-09-30 16:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-10-01 11:09 ` Stephen Leake
2011-09-30 19:26 ` tmoran
2011-09-30 22:31 ` tmoran
2011-10-01 13:37 ` RasikaSrinivasan@gmail.com
2011-10-02 14:19 ` Stephen Leake
1997-12-02 0:00 Robert Dewar
1997-12-02 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1997-12-02 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1997-12-03 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1997-12-04 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-04 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-12-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-12-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-03 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-12-03 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1997-12-04 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-12-04 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-03 0:00 ` robin
1997-12-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-12-03 0:00 ` robin
1997-11-28 0:00 tmoran
1997-11-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-11-27 0:00 tmoran
1997-11-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-11-29 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
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1997-11-22 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
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