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From: dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar)
Subject: Re: ADA CORE TECHNOLOGIES ANNOUNCES GNAT-TO-JAVA SYSTEM
Date: 1997/09/18
Date: 1997-09-18T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dewar.874623267@merv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 34204085.5377@ibm.net


Ralph replies to Paul:

<<> I realize that the JVM port is motivated (quite rightly, IMO) by economic
> reasons, but I wonder if some other "intermediate form" besides byte
> codes might be better if one wanted a portable format which could then
> be compiled.
>
> -- Brian

There already one such thing. It's called slim binaries and is used on
some
Oberon-2 system. These system use some sort of abstract tree
representation
as "byte-code". This AST is then compiled on the fly on the supported
platform.
>From what I read on it  the technology gives you protable object-code
and
native peformance. Also the program flow analysis which is done in Java>>



Oh goodness, this is an OLD OLD idea, P-code is of course one of the earliest
and best known attempts (there was a whole technology of native code 
generators, and no doubt you could find a SMS sales person willing to make
the same absurd claim of 100% portability with native performance that is
always bandied about for such systems.

But there are literally dozens of designs and attempts in this direction,
it is after all a perfectly obvious idea, closely related to the ancient
UNCOL proposal.

For a slightly more credible attempt, see the DDCI technical product
information, which describes how they use one of the more sophisticated
approaches along these lines. If DDCI is listening, I will let them fill
in the details!






  reply	other threads:[~1997-09-18  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-09-11  0:00 ADA CORE TECHNOLOGIES ANNOUNCES GNAT-TO-JAVA SYSTEM Robert Dewar
1997-09-12  0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1997-09-13  0:00   ` Tarjei T. Jensen
1997-09-14  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-14  0:00       ` Tarjei T. Jensen
1997-09-15  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-13  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-14  0:00     ` Ralph Paul
1997-09-14  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-16  0:00         ` Ralph Paul
1997-09-16  0:00         ` Brian Rogoff
1997-09-17  0:00           ` Ralph Paul
1997-09-18  0:00             ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1997-09-19  0:00               ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-09-19  0:00                 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-09-20  0:00                   ` Jay Han
1997-09-22  0:00                   ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-09-20  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-21  0:00                   ` Fergus Henderson
1997-09-22  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-17  0:00           ` Tarjei T. Jensen
1997-09-18  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-15  0:00     ` Stephen Leake
1997-09-15  0:00       ` Mark L. Fussell
1997-09-16  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-17  0:00         ` Stephen Leake
1997-09-18  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-19  0:00             ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-09-20  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-23  0:00                 ` multi-language to JVM compilers? W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-09-19  0:00             ` translating to Ada, was Re: ADA CORE TECHNOLOGIES ANNOUNCES GNAT-TO-JAVA SYSTEM Tom Moran
1997-09-16  0:00       ` Tucker Taft
1997-09-17  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1997-09-15  0:00 Marc Wachowitz
1997-09-20  0:00 Marc Wachowitz
1997-09-21  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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