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From: dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar)
Subject: Re: Why Ada is not the Commercial Lang of Choice
Date: 1997/06/21
Date: 1997-06-21T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dewar.866898018@merv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: EC471t.Ltp@thomsoft.com


Keith said

<<GNAT follows this advice (the full type is modular, but that doesn't
make literals available).  ObjectAda makes System.Address an access
type.
>>

That follows an old custom in Alsys compilers, where Address has always
been an access type. What I do not like about this choice is that it means
that the compiler always wants to initialize address values to the null
pointer. This default initialization seems appropriate for access types,
but I usually find it to be unwelcome junk overhead for addresses.

The modular representation seems more natural for modern machines.
Historically one of the reasons for the Alsys choice was that the modular
choice is NOT a good choice for the old junk segmented 286 architecture,
and indeed if we still had to fight that machine, I would probably follow
the access type decision, since it is indeed more portable in this sense.

(yes, yes, I know, the 32-bit x86 architecture still has segmentation, for
gruesome details, see my book on Microprocessors - when Hennessey reviewed
this section of the book, he wrote a large note asking "does anyone use
this nonsense?" -- the answer to his question is pretty much no :-)






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Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-06-18  0:00 Why Ada is not the Commercial Lang of Choice Robert I. Eachus
1997-06-18  0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1997-06-19  0:00   ` Steve Jones - JON
1997-06-19  0:00     ` Peter Hermann
1997-06-19  0:00     ` Anonymous
1997-07-17  0:00     ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-06-19  0:00   ` Robert A Duff
1997-06-21  0:00     ` Paul Van Bellinghen
1997-06-20  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-23  0:00         ` John G. Volan
1997-07-03  0:00           ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-07-03  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-06  0:00               ` Yasmiin S. Davis
1997-07-06  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-07  0:00               ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-07-04  0:00             ` Paul Van Bellinghen
1997-07-13  0:00               ` Ken Mays
1997-07-13  0:00                 ` Robert Munck
1997-07-14  0:00                   ` Ken Mays
1997-06-20  0:00   ` Don Harrison
1997-06-20  0:00     ` Donovan Baarda
1997-06-20  0:00     ` Roy Grimm
1997-06-20  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-06-20  0:00       ` Nick Leaton
1997-06-23  0:00       ` Don Harrison
1997-06-24  0:00         ` Bertrand Meyer
1997-06-24  0:00           ` Nick Leaton
1997-07-22  0:00           ` Dr. Vladimir Il'ich Fomin
1997-06-23  0:00     ` Joachim Durchholz
1997-06-23  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-24  0:00       ` Don Harrison
1997-06-24  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-20  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-20  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-21  0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1997-06-21  0:00   ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1997-06-24  0:00     ` Ken Garlington
1997-06-24  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-28  0:00   ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-06-28  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1997-06-13  0:00 Paul Van Bellinghen
1997-06-17  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-20  0:00   ` nma123
1997-06-24  0:00     ` Adam Beneschan
1997-06-17  0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1997-06-17  0:00   ` Robert Munck
1997-06-18  0:00   ` Ken Garlington
1997-06-19  0:00     ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-06-19  0:00       ` Ken Garlington
1997-06-18  0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1997-06-18  0:00   ` Peter Hermann
1997-06-20  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-25  0:00     ` Van Snyder
1997-06-26  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-30  0:00         ` Ralph Paul
1997-07-02  0:00           ` Joerg Rodemann
1997-07-02  0:00             ` Ralph Paul
1997-07-02  0:00             ` Joerg Rodemann
1997-06-19  0:00 ` Steve Doiel
1997-06-19  0:00   ` Anonymous
1997-07-22  0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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