From: dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar)
Subject: Re: Warning: Religious naming convention discussion :-) [was: assign help!!]
Date: 1997/05/12
Date: 1997-05-12T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dewar.863448507@merv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: EA1I8o.HBD@world.std.com
<<I disagree. I think "pointer" means "thing that can point". I don't
think it's a low-level machine-oriented concept at all. I use the term
"address" or "machine address" for the low-level notion. I would amend
your last sentence to say, "... there is nothing in the language that
suggests or requires that access types be implemented as machine
addresses."
Note that Pascal calls them "pointers", not "access types", and there is
nothing in Pascal that suggests or requires pointers to be implemented
as machine addresses. This is even true of C, and there are in fact
implementations of C that implement "foo*" as something other than an
address -- for the purpose of doing bounds checking and whatnot, which
is very expensive in C, but nonetheless useful for debugging.>>
says Bob Duff, and I agree in theory, but in practice, say pointer to
most people, and then think of a machine address ... it is that
perception of connection that causes confusion.
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Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1997-05-05 0:00 assign help!! Ivan Gou
1997-05-06 0:00 ` Michael F Brenner
1997-05-07 0:00 ` Charles H. Sampson
1997-05-08 0:00 ` Warning: Religious naming convention discussion :-) [was: assign help!!] John G. Volan
1997-05-09 0:00 ` Kevin Cline
1997-05-09 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-09 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1997-05-09 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-09 0:00 ` Jeff Carter
1997-05-09 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-10 0:00 ` Aaron Metzger
1997-05-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-11 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-11 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-05-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1997-05-12 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-05-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-13 0:00 ` David L Brown
1997-05-13 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-13 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-05-13 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Kevin Cline
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen FOU.TD/DELAB
1997-05-12 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-11 0:00 ` Simon Wright
1997-05-12 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-10 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-05-10 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-10 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-12 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-12 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-05-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-16 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-05-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-13 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-11 0:00 ` Kevin Cline
1997-05-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-12 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-16 0:00 ` Wayne Magor
1997-05-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-18 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1997-05-20 0:00 ` naming convention discussion Peter Hermann
1997-05-16 0:00 ` Warning: Religious naming convention discussion :-) [was: assign help!!] John G. Volan
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Ben Brosgol
1997-05-14 0:00 ` naming convention: trailing underscore Peter Hermann
1997-05-14 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-15 0:00 ` Michael F Brenner
[not found] ` <dewar.863717431@merv>
1997-05-16 0:00 ` naming convention discussion Peter Hermann
1997-05-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-20 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1997-05-16 0:00 ` Warning: Religious naming convention discussion :-) [was: assign help!!] Robert A Duff
1997-05-18 0:00 ` Underscores in identifiers (was: Warning: Religious naming convention discussion :-) Ben Brosgol
1997-05-17 0:00 ` Warning: Religious naming convention discussion :-) [was: assign help!!] Arthur Schwarz
1997-05-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-17 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-18 0:00 ` Andrew Dunstan
1997-05-18 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1997-05-19 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-19 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-12 0:00 ` Jeff Carter
1997-05-12 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-12 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1997-05-12 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-13 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1997-05-13 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Do-While Jones
1997-05-14 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-14 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-15 0:00 ` Tangent to Religious naming convention discussion W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1997-05-15 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Warning: Religious naming convention discussion :-) [was: assign help!!] Stephen Leake
1997-05-14 0:00 ` naming convention discussion Peter Hermann
1997-05-14 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1997-05-14 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-15 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1997-05-15 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1997-05-09 0:00 ` Warning: Religious naming convention discussion :-) [was: assign help!!] John G. Volan
1997-05-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-10 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-05-12 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-12 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1997-05-12 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1997-05-12 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-11 0:00 ` Doug Smith
1997-05-12 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1997-05-16 0:00 ` Wayne Magor
1997-05-16 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-17 0:00 ` Kevin Cline
1997-05-19 0:00 ` Doug Smith
1997-05-12 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1997-05-12 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-12 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-05-10 0:00 ` assign help!! Simon Wright
1997-05-14 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
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