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From: dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar)
Subject: Re: Ada95 to ANSI_C converter
Date: 1997/04/07
Date: 1997-04-07T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dewar.860442122@merv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 334929E8.4E68@gdls.com


iArthur Schwarz says

<<And this is not to attempt to derate ACT or your own efforts. Only to
say that
IMO the issue is not meaningful in that failing to pass a "nasty test
case" means
that the language feature tested is not useable and the compiler
erroneous.>>

(by the way it would be appreicated if you keep your line length under 80!)

Yes, I know this seems reasonable to those without direct experience in
defining languages and dealing with language standards, but the fact of the
matter is that for real life languages, there are lots of murky areas which
are not so easily adjudicated, and where there is little poitn in writing
tests. The ARG found it useful to have a category "pathological", which
means, yes, the language is defined to behave in (surprising/silly/clearly-
wrong/absurd etc) manner Y, but it is not worth trying to fix it, or to
worry about it too much, since it is too marginal to be of interest (and
please, ACVC folks do NOT write stupid tests).

Note that the business in Arthur's message about "stressing a compiler" is
not relevant at all. Stressing compilers is a good thing. We are talking
about stressing the *language* here!





  reply	other threads:[~1997-04-07  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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1997-03-26  0:00 ` Ada95 to ANSI_C converter Nick Roberts
1997-03-26  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-27  0:00     ` Jennifer E. Lee
1997-03-28  0:00       ` Craig Franck
1997-03-28  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-28  0:00     ` Steve Doiel
1997-03-28  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-02  0:00         ` Richard Kenner
1997-04-02  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-02  0:00             ` Richard Kenner
1997-04-02  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-02  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
1997-04-04  0:00               ` Keith Thompson
1997-04-04  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-07  0:00                   ` Arthur Schwarz
1997-04-07  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1997-04-08  0:00                       ` Robert A Duff
1997-04-07  0:00                     ` Peter Seebach
1997-04-07  0:00                       ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-04-08  0:00                   ` Keith Thompson
1997-04-02  0:00       ` Richard Kenner
1997-04-03  0:00         ` Fergus Henderson
1997-03-27  0:00   ` Jennifer E. Lee
1997-03-27  0:00     ` Philip Johnson
1997-04-01  0:00       ` Jennifer E. Lee
1997-04-02  0:00         ` Philip E. Johnson
1997-04-03  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-28  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-28  0:00       ` Craig Franck
1997-03-28  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-01  0:00     ` Tom Wheeley
1997-04-01  0:00     ` David Kristola
1997-04-01  0:00       ` Jennifer E. Lee
1997-03-27  0:00   ` Craig Franck
1997-03-27  0:00     ` Jennifer E. Lee
1997-04-01  0:00   ` Robert I. Eachus
1997-03-27  0:00 ` Jeff Carter
1997-03-28  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-28  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-28  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-02  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1997-04-03  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-04  0:00     ` Jon S Anthony
1997-04-03  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1997-04-03  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-03  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
1997-04-03  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-04  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1997-04-04  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-04  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-07  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1997-04-07  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-31  0:00 ` David Emery
1997-03-31  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-31  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-01  0:00   ` Robert A Duff
1997-04-03  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-04-03  0:00   ` Jennifer E. Lee
1997-04-04  0:00 ` Howard W. LUDWIG
1997-04-16  0:00 Dan Lehman
1997-04-17  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-04-20  0:00   ` Nick Roberts
1997-04-20  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
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