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From: dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar)
Subject: Re: Looking for a good Ada 95 book
Date: 1996/11/23
Date: 1996-11-23T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dewar.848785112@merv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 577mo9$57s@news.syspac.com


jim says

"Roberts comment that styles in the real world are imposed upon you is
an excellent point. But in fact, in the real world during a career,
MULTIPLE styles will be imposed upon a programmer. For example in the
last two years i have had at least 3 different styles imposed upon my
by the various prime contractors we have worked with, and i have
imposed my prefered style on our Ada folks at SAIC in dayton for our
internal work. :-) The best way to teach this (again IMNSHO) is to
train them by imposing various styles during their training to shake
them out of their religious opinions, and force them to understand the
issues that underly stylistic choices.
"


Best guess is that jim has not taught a CS1 course. I often find that
computer professionals GREATLY overestimate what is appropriate to teach
at this level. Teaching anything about programming and abstraction is
very hard -- I agree with everything jim says, but it is NOT an appropriate
excercise in a first semester course in programming, which is what we are
talking about here!





  reply	other threads:[~1996-11-23  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-11-18  0:00 Looking for a good Ada 95 book Ray Toal
1996-11-18  0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-22  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-23  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-23  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-23  0:00       ` jim hopper
1996-11-23  0:00         ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1996-11-24  0:00           ` jim hopper
1996-11-24  0:00             ` S. McLain
1996-11-25  0:00           ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-25  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-27  0:00               ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-30  0:00                 ` Frank Manning
1996-11-30  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-12-02  0:00                     ` Frank Manning
1996-11-30  0:00                   ` Michael Feldman
1996-12-04  0:00                     ` Dale Stanbrough
1996-12-04  0:00                       ` Michael Feldman
1996-12-02  0:00               ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-12-02  0:00                 ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-27  0:00             ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-27  0:00               ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-23  0:00     ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-26  0:00       ` Suzanne B. Zampella
1996-11-27  0:00         ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-27  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-28  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-26  0:00       ` Jim Carr
1996-11-29  0:00         ` Dale Stanbrough
1996-11-30  0:00           ` Teaching Team/Maintenance Programming (was: Looking for a good book) Larry Kilgallen
1996-12-02  0:00           ` Looking for a good Ada 95 book Laurent Gasser
1996-12-02  0:00             ` John English
1996-12-13  0:00           ` Debora Weber-Wulff
1996-11-25  0:00   ` Darel Cullen
1996-11-26  0:00   ` S. McLain
1996-11-26  0:00   ` Darel Cullen
1996-11-19  0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
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