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From: dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar)
Subject: Re: Looking for good Ada95 book
Date: 1996/11/17
Date: 1996-11-17T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dewar.848228846@merv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 56b275$6k4@felix.seas.gwu.edu


Mike says

"It's a small point in the larger community; I maintain it is a helpful
style for first-year students."

OK, so, a claim that this is not just arbitrary, but that there is an
objective advantage. OK, Mike, what is the source of evidence for this
claim?

I have never heard anyone else make this claim, or seen any evidence
to back it up -- sure some Pascal books use this style, but as I explained
there is understandable historic precedent, and you cannot assume that
because a book uses this style that it agrees with the point Mike is
making.

P.S. Mike cannot say that he was completely unaware that anyone might
object to this style, he has known for a long time that I object, but it
is a fair point that no one else reviewing the book did.

So far on CLA, no one has actively supported the MF style, the contributions
to this thread are divided between those who agree with me that it is a pity
that the book is inconsistent with the most commonly recommended style, and
those who think it does not matter. It would be interesting to hear from
anyone else who agrees that the style of upper case keywords is preferable
for teaching.

In my class, I see that most students use the standard style (I encourage
but do not insist on it, I should have insisted). A few students who are
used to upper case keyword style in Pascal persist in using it, and
a few who are new to Ada and Pascal copy the style in the book. Some
other students know Pascal well, but have learned from books with lower
case keywords, so remain in that style (in general people tend to stick
with whatever style they learn first in my experience, even if imported
from another language).





  reply	other threads:[~1996-11-17  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-10-26  0:00 Looking for good Ada95 book Lars Lundgren
1996-10-28  0:00 ` Rapicault Pascal
     [not found]   ` <01bbc5d8$a3b24e00$6a9148a6@cornerstone.mydomain.org>
1996-10-29  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-30  0:00       ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-02  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-03  0:00           ` Matthew Heaney
1996-11-03  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-03  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-04  0:00           ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-04  0:00             ` Jerry Petrey
1996-11-06  0:00               ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-09  0:00               ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-05  0:00             ` Silliness (was: Looking for good Ada95 book) Adam Beneschan
1996-11-06  0:00               ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-04  0:00           ` Looking for good Ada95 book Michael F Brenner
1996-11-04  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-04  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-09  0:00                 ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-11  0:00                   ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-12  0:00                     ` Mark Shaw
1996-11-06  0:00               ` James Thiele
1996-11-08  0:00                 ` Stephen Leake
1996-11-06  0:00             ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-06  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-06  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-06  0:00           ` Silliness (was: Looking for good Ada95 book) Chris Morgan
1996-11-08  0:00           ` bill.williams
1996-11-09  0:00             ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-09  0:00           ` Looking for good Ada95 book Michael Feldman
1996-11-10  0:00             ` Lars Farm
1996-11-10  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-11  0:00                 ` Lars Farm
1996-11-12  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-12  0:00                     ` Lars Farm
1996-11-14  0:00                       ` Capitalization Entropy (was: Looking for good Ada95 book) Scott James
1996-11-14  0:00                         ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-18  0:00                   ` Looking for good Ada95 book Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-12  0:00                 ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-17  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1996-11-18  0:00                     ` Richard Pattis
1996-11-19  0:00                       ` Do-While Jones
1996-11-20  0:00                       ` John English
1996-11-20  0:00                         ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-21  0:00                       ` FerretWoman
1996-11-22  0:00                         ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-24  0:00                           ` Fergus Henderson
1996-11-18  0:00                   ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-18  0:00                     ` Michael Feldman
1996-11-20  0:00                       ` Testing teaching belief? Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-20  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-22  0:00                           ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-11-29  0:00                             ` Debora Weber-Wulff
1996-12-01  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-20  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-14  0:00             ` Looking for good Ada95 book Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-10-31  0:00       ` Tom Pastuszak
1996-10-28  0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-04  0:00 ` John English
1996-11-06  0:00 ` Wolfgang Gellerich
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1996-11-12  0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-93
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