From: dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar)
Subject: Re: Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation)
Date: 1996/10/12
Date: 1996-10-12T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dewar.845170213@merv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 325FFB39.15A4@io.com
Dave Jones says
"An excellent idea Robert -- except for one big problem: Engineers who are
trying to build reliable, commercial products don't generally like to use
proucts which are still in beta."
Then they surely will stay away from Java. Even the language design must
be considered to be still under test, let alone the implementation!
I'll tell you a little secret: whether something is in beta status has
very little to do with its quality. Microsoft has sometimes released
products as initial releases so full of bugs that they could not
even be reasonably considered to be ready for beta testing. On the other
hand, some products, such as the final beta versions of NT 4.0, were in
excellent shape in beta stage.
A lot of the reason that the Intermetrics product is still in beta status
is that it is incomplete, but even in its incomplete status, it still has
a lot more capability than a native Java compiler.
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1996-10-08 0:00 Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation Gregory Aharonian
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Gandalf
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Bill Nielsen
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
1996-10-09 0:00 ` C++ Standardization (was: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) David Shochat
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-10 0:00 ` David Shochat
1996-10-20 0:00 ` Richard Riehle
1996-10-20 0:00 ` nasser
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Shayne Flint
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Shayne Flint
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Rush Kester
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Ed Falis
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-12 0:00 ` Kevin D. Heatwole
1996-10-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-13 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-13 0:00 ` Ed Falis
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Dave Wood
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Dave Wood
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Garbage Collection in Ada Thomas Kendelbacher
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation Mike Stark
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Mitch Gart
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Mitch Gart
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Bevin R. Brett
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Mitch Gart
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Brian Rogoff
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Dave
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-12 0:00 ` davedave
1996-10-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1996-10-13 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Dave
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-12 0:00 ` Dave
1996-10-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Mike Stark
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Mike Stark
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Why no Propagates? Matthew Heaney
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Robert A Duff
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Portability of Arithmetic (was: Java vs Ada 95) Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Brian R. Hanson
1996-10-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-19 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation Dale Stanbrough
1996-10-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Portability of Arithmetic (was: Java vs Ada 95) Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Lance Kibblewhite
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-23 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-23 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Alan Brain
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-20 0:00 ` Alan Brain
1996-10-24 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Mitch Gart
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Mark A Biggar
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1996-10-28 0:00 ` Kenneth Almquist
1996-10-29 0:00 ` Invoking parental methods (was: Java vs Ada 95) Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-31 0:00 ` Kenneth Almquist
1996-10-31 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Mitch Gart
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-07 0:00 ` David Wheeler
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Mitch Gart
1996-11-08 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-08 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-09 0:00 ` Joel VanLaven
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Brian Rogoff
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-22 0:00 ` Van Snyder
1996-11-25 0:00 ` Java vs Ada vs Inferno, floating point arithmetic Anssi Porttikivi
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Why no Propagates? Michel Gauthier
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-10-23 0:00 ` Michel Gauthier
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Mitch Gart
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Brian R. Hanson
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Mitch Gart
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Brian R. Hanson
1996-10-20 0:00 ` nasser
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-12 0:00 ` davedave
1996-10-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Lars Farm
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Why no Free? Matthew Heaney
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-18 0:00 ` John Herro
1996-10-19 0:00 ` John Herro
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Jon S Anthony
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Samuel T. Harris
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-29 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-29 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-29 0:00 ` Kenneth Almquist
1996-10-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-31 0:00 ` Kenneth Almquist
1996-10-30 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1996-10-31 0:00 ` Lars Farm
1996-10-31 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-31 0:00 ` Kenneth Almquist
1996-11-01 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-01 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
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1996-11-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-04 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-04 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Fast locking (Was Re: Java vs Ada 95) Geert Bosch
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1996-11-07 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-11 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-08 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1996-11-02 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Robert Dewar
1996-11-04 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-16 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1996-11-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-17 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-19 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-18 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1996-11-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-18 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-16 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-17 0:00 ` Unbounded strings (Was: Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation)) Robert A Duff
1996-11-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-19 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-24 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-25 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-19 0:00 ` Joel VanLaven
1996-11-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-21 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-24 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-11-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-25 0:00 ` Kevin D. Heatwole
1996-11-25 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-26 0:00 ` Kevin D. Heatwole
1996-11-26 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-26 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-27 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-29 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-29 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-11-26 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1996-11-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-25 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-20 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Ada and the DoD HLA (was: " John Cosby
1996-10-13 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was " Hannes Haug
1996-11-03 0:00 ` Hannes Haug
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Fast locking (Was Re: Java vs Ada 95) Hannes Haug
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Hannes Haug
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation Matthew M. Lih
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Rush Kester
1996-10-21 0:00 ` C++ Standardization (was: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) David Emery
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Tarjei Jensen
1996-10-22 0:00 ` C++ Standardization (was: Once again, Ian Ward
1996-11-01 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Jon S Anthony
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