* GNAT vs other compilers @ 1996-08-06 0:00 Patrice Saintonge 1996-08-07 0:00 ` Dave Wood 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Patrice Saintonge @ 1996-08-06 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Hello ! I'm currently trying to convince my boss that GNU tools are worth being used, compared to other often expensive proprietary tools. This is why i'm looking for comparative evaluations of the GNAT compiler vs the other compilers in the hood. Many thanks in advance. Patrice Saintonge. cs-defense-ceo@calva.net ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: GNAT vs other compilers 1996-08-06 0:00 GNAT vs other compilers Patrice Saintonge @ 1996-08-07 0:00 ` Dave Wood 1996-08-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Dave Wood @ 1996-08-07 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Patrice Saintonge wrote: > > Hello ! > > I'm currently trying to convince my boss that GNU tools are worth being > used, compared to other often expensive proprietary tools. I'm all in favor of GNAT - in spreading Ada 95, it provides a good service for the community. But, I wouldn't be too hasty to assume that all the Ada products from the commercial vendors are expensive. In fact, you might find them quite cost effective, particularly when issues like environment, speed, support, and services are factored into the equation. It is my opinion that strong, competitve commercial vendors and usable freeware are both crucial ingredients to a vibrant Ada community. They serve different but complementary purposes. > This is why i'm looking for comparative evaluations of the GNAT > compiler vs the other compilers in the hood. We're pretty comfortable with this, but you might find substantive comparative evals hard to come by for at least several more months. What you're more likely to get now are anecdotal accounts. -- Dave Wood -- Product Manager, ObjectAda for Windows -- http://www.thomsoft.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: GNAT vs other compilers 1996-08-07 0:00 ` Dave Wood @ 1996-08-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar 1996-08-09 0:00 ` Robert A Duff 1996-08-10 0:00 ` Dave Wood 0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Robert Dewar @ 1996-08-08 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Dave Wood says "I'm all in favor of GNAT - in spreading Ada 95, it provides a good service for the community. But, I wouldn't be too hasty to assume that all the Ada products from the commercial vendors are expensive. In fact, you might find them quite cost effective, particularly when issues like environment, speed, support, and services are factored into the equation." First of all, Dave does not mean commercial here, he means proprietary. GNAT is definitely a commercial product, and ACT is a commercial vendor, it is just that GNAT is not a proprietary product! I agree with Dave that you should factor in all these issues into the equation, particularly support, which can be critical when you are using new technologies. We are very happy to compete in all these areas, and we (and many of our customers) see GNAT as much more than just of value for spreading Ada 95. For example, GNAT is still the only high quality Ada technology in sight on many machines, and is still the only full language technology (all other Ada 95 compilers so far do not address the full set of special needs annexes). As always, choosing a software technology requires work on the part of users, and it is rare that you can say absolutely "technology X" is superior to "technology y", for any x,y. Rather you end up deciding that in *this* particular situation one or the other makes better sense. Incidentally, Dave is also quite right that you should not assume that all the Ada products from the proprietary vendors are expensive, or that GNAT is necessarily inexpensive. Sometimes a GNAT-based solution with appropriate levels of support may be more expensive than some proprietary solution. Whether it is worth paying this higher amount depends as always on whether the added capability is sufficiently valuable. Robert Dewar President Ada Core Technologies P.S. This is pushing the limits of what is appropriate to this newsgroup, but, I think, no more than Dave is pushing them :-) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: GNAT vs other compilers 1996-08-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar @ 1996-08-09 0:00 ` Robert A Duff 1996-08-10 0:00 ` Dave Wood 1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Robert A Duff @ 1996-08-09 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <dewar.839546529@schonberg>, Robert Dewar <dewar@cs.nyu.edu> wrote: >P.S. This is pushing the limits of what is appropriate to this newsgroup, >but, I think, no more than Dave is pushing them :-) I can't speak for everyone, obviously, but *I* don't see anything wrong with this discussion. Lots of people on this group want to know stuff about various vendor's Ada products, so why can't the vendors tell them? It's not like you guys are hawking memory chips or something -- now *that* would be inappropriate. (Or, say, get-rich-quick pyramid schemes!) - Bob ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: GNAT vs other compilers 1996-08-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar 1996-08-09 0:00 ` Robert A Duff @ 1996-08-10 0:00 ` Dave Wood 1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Dave Wood @ 1996-08-10 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Robert Dewar wrote: > [snip] > > P.S. This is pushing the limits of what is appropriate to this newsgroup, > but, I think, no more than Dave is pushing them :-) Yeah, but you know, sometimes I like to shake things up on comp.lang.gnat... :) -- Dave Wood -- Product Manager, ObjectAda for Windows -- http://www.thomsoft.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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