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From: dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar)
Subject: Re: Ada News Brief - 96-05-24.txt [1/1]
Date: 1996/05/30
Date: 1996-05-30T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dewar.833454556@schonberg> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Ds5wHE.Au4@ips.cs.tu-bs.de


Richard Riehle (rriehle@nunic.nu.edu) wrote:

>   Java's democratic nature is a blessing for open exhange of ideas. It
>   would not lend itself easily to the protection of ideas.  When we want
>   to minimize the risk of sacrificing our intellectual property through
>   too easy public access, nothing does the job as well as Ada.


That's a very strange viewpoint. Of course we are not talking languages
here, as someone has pointed out, but rather typical environments.

In many ways you can see Java *precisely* as a means of protecting
intellectual property and aiding software hoarding. Suppose you want
to distribute a program that will run on all systems. In the past,
the easiest, indeed the only really practical way, to do this was
to distribute sources. Now with the universal availability of Java
byte code interpretors, you can distribute JBC, and avoid distributing
the source.

THe discussion about free vs proprietary software is of course one that
continues, and is not strictly relevant to this discussion, but claiming
that Java is a blow in the direction of freedom is truly ironic!

All in all, the quote from Richard is quite bizarre. Even with a friendly
interpretation, I can't make any sense out of it at all. Ada is a completely
open language. It has an international standard and NO ONE can lay claim to
any intellectual property rights in Ada itself. You can of course write
proprietary programs in Ada, but that is true of any language.

Richard, can you try to explain what on earth you mean here!





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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-05-24  0:00 Ada News Brief - 96-05-24.txt [1/1] AdaIC
1996-05-27  0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1996-05-27  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-05-28  0:00   ` Richard Riehle
1996-05-29  0:00     ` Andreas Zeller
1996-05-30  0:00       ` Java Risks (Was: Ada News Brief - 96-05-24 Richard Riehle
1996-05-31  0:00         ` Java Risks (should be Java mis-speak) The Right Reverend Colin James III
1996-06-02  0:00           ` Richard Riehle
1996-06-03  0:00             ` Tucker Taft
1996-05-31  0:00         ` Java Risks (Was: Ada News Brief - 96-05-24 Brian N. Miller
1996-06-02  0:00           ` Richard Riehle
1996-06-03  0:00           ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-04  0:00             ` Bill Brooks
1996-06-06  0:00               ` Bjarne Stroustrup <9758-26353> 0112760
1996-06-06  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]         ` <4omoh4$k0f@ansible.bbt.com <4ov36b$1665@watnews1.watson.ibm.com>
1996-06-04  0:00           ` Richard Riehle
1996-05-30  0:00       ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1996-06-01  0:00         ` Ada News Brief - 96-05-24.txt [1/1] AdaWorks
1996-06-01  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-01  0:00         ` AdaWorks
1996-06-01  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-01  0:00             ` Mike Young
1996-06-03  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-04  0:00             ` Richard Riehle
1996-05-31  0:00 ` Java Risks (Was: Ada News Brief - 96-05-24 Jon S Anthony
1996-06-01  0:00   ` Java Risks David Hopwood
1996-06-02  0:00   ` Java Risks (Was: Ada News Brief - 96-05-24 Richard Riehle
1996-06-01  0:00 ` Bob Crispen
1996-06-05  0:00   ` Alan Brain
1996-06-03  0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-06-03  0:00   ` Imonics Corporation
1996-06-07  0:00   ` Peter Wentworth
1996-06-05  0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-06-05  0:00   ` Bill Brennamw
1996-06-08  0:00   ` Brian N. Miller
1996-06-09  0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
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