From: dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar)
Subject: Re: Ada is almost useless in embedded systems
Date: 1996/02/18
Date: 1996-02-18T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dewar.824686406@schonberg> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 824684479.9342@assen.demon.co.uk
John says
"As far as K&RII is concerned, in the section in the back with the
annotations it explains the purpose of the volatile qualifier as being
to ensure that the compiler doesn't optimize e.g. redundant
assignments etc on a particular object."
John, get a copy of the ANSI standard if you want to discuss things at
this level. K&RII is not a full accurate description of the standard (nor
does it pretend to be!)
Any serious C programmer should (a) have a copy of the ANSI standard and
(b) know their way around it.
The same of course is true for Ada programmers.
I am not saying that people should learn the languages from the standard,
that's asking too much, but you should learn to use it as a reference,
since it is the only authoritative source for detailed semantic information
in both cases.
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1996-02-17 0:00 ` Ada is almost useless in embedded systems Tore Joergensen
1996-02-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-19 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1996-02-19 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
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1996-02-17 0:00 ` Ada is great for embedded systems (was Ada is almost useless in embedded systems) Ken & Virginia Garlington
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1996-02-19 0:00 ` Ada is almost useless in embedded systems AdaWorks
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Hugh Dunne
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
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1996-02-22 0:00 ` Alan Brain
1996-02-19 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-02-19 0:00 ` AdaWorks
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-02-23 0:00 ` AdaWorks
1996-02-19 0:00 ` R.A.L Williams
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-02-26 0:00 ` R.A.L Williams
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1996-03-21 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-03-23 0:00 ` Side-effect arithmetic again [was: Ada ... in embedded systems] John G. Volan
1996-03-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-25 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-03-25 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-25 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-26 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-26 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-26 0:00 ` Tore Joergensen
1996-03-27 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-28 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-03-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-29 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-03-29 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-03-27 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-29 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-30 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-30 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-31 0:00 ` AdaWorks
1996-04-01 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-27 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-29 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
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1996-02-17 0:00 ` Ada is almost useless in embedded systems Robert Dewar
1996-02-18 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-02-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-19 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-02-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-21 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
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1996-02-17 0:00 ` Ken & Virginia Garlington
1996-02-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-18 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-02-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1996-02-19 0:00 ` John McCabe
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1996-02-26 0:00 ` Ada 83 " Alan Brain
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1996-03-15 0:00 ` Bug or Limitation? (was: Ada is almost useless in embedded systems) Robert Dewar
1996-03-16 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
1996-03-20 0:00 ` Side-effect arithmetic again [was: Ada ... in embedded systems] Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-20 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-22 0:00 ` Alan Brain
1996-03-20 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-25 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-28 0:00 ` Mats Weber
1996-03-29 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1996-03-26 0:00 ` Mats Weber
1996-03-15 0:00 ` Ada is almost useless in embedded systems Robert I. Eachus
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1996-03-18 0:00 ` David Weller
1996-03-18 0:00 ` Alan Brain
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1996-03-18 0:00 ` Side-effect arithmetic again [was: Ada ... in embedded systems] Robert Dewar
1996-03-19 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1996-03-21 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-03-19 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-16 0:00 ` Ada is almost useless in embedded systems Kevin Dalley
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1996-03-15 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-03-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-18 0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1996-03-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-03-18 0:00 ` Stephen Crawley
1996-03-19 0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
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