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From: dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar)
Subject: Re: First Language Debate etc.
Date: 1995/04/20
Date: 1995-04-20T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dewar.798392254@gnat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dkumar.798383932@blackcat

Deepak Kumar says:

"4) What about Ada? I would like to use Ada in CS1, but it also suffers
   from point 1 above :-( no decent programming environment for CS1.
   I will be using Ada in CS2 (using the SUN Ada Compiler and possible
   GNAT, when we get to the Ada95 parts). Will share experiences when we
   get there."

you may want to take a look at GNAT even for Ada 83, the lack of a library
removes one real conceptual obstacle for starting students, and I think the
error messages, particularly for typical student mistakes, are better, but
don't take my word for it (pay your $0 and buy a copy and evaluate it :-)

Of course you are quite right about environments, and that is something
we really hope to see improved later this year with GNAT. By the way do
I take it you are using Unix for CS2, that seems rather inconsistent
with worrying about nice environments :-)





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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <3mq0jd$r10@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com>
     [not found] ` <3n10sv$i97@gopher.cs.uofs.edu>
1995-04-19  0:00   ` No top schools use Ada Fernando Mato Mira
1995-04-19  0:00 ` Kenneth Almquist
1995-04-18  0:00   ` cjames
1995-04-19  0:00     ` Kenneth Almquist
     [not found] ` <NEWTNews.27781.798049024.ir001168@cec-services-01>
     [not found]   ` <3mrg2c$onn@disunms.epfl.ch>
     [not found]     ` <tomkwongD76x5L.AED@netcom.com>
1995-04-19  0:00       ` Which first-course languages? (was: What schools use Eiffel (was: No top schools use Ada)) ? Theodore Dennison
1995-04-19  0:00         ` Theodore Dennison
1995-04-19  0:00           ` Scott Wheeler
1995-04-20  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-21  0:00               ` Jeremiah S Patterson
1995-04-21  0:00           ` Scott Wheeler
1995-04-19  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20  0:00         ` Which first-course languages? (was: What schools use Eiffel (was Geert Bosch
1995-04-20  0:00         ` Which first-course languages? (was: What schools use Eiffel (was: No top schools use Ada)) ? Robert Johnson
1995-04-20  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-21  0:00         ` Des Kenny
1995-04-21  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20  0:00   ` What schools use Eiffel ? Igor Chudov
1995-04-20  0:00 ` Which first-course languages? (was: What schools use Eiffel (was: No top schools use Ada)) ? Spencer Allain
1995-04-20  0:00   ` Scott Wheeler
1995-04-21  0:00   ` Neil Wilson
1995-04-21  0:00 ` What schools use Eiffel ? Madison Cloutier
     [not found] ` <D759Az.GHM@cs.fredonia.edu>
1995-04-19  0:00   ` No top schools use Ada Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]
1995-04-19  0:00   ` Ian S Nelson
1995-04-19  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20  0:00       ` First Language Debate etc Deepak Kumar
1995-04-20  0:00         ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1995-04-21  0:00           ` Deepak Kumar
1995-04-20  0:00       ` No top schools use Ada Brian Hanson
1995-04-20  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-19  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]   ` <NEWTNews.19974.798127420.cjames@cec-services-01>
1995-04-18  0:00     ` Jay M Martin
1995-04-20  0:00     ` Norman H. Cohen
1995-04-20  0:00       ` cjames
1995-04-20  0:00     ` Vladimir Vukicevic
1995-04-22  0:00   ` Chris Morgan
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