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From: dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar)
Subject: Re: Which first-course languages? (was: What schools use Eiffel (was: No top schools use Ada)) ?
Date: 1995/04/20
Date: 1995-04-20T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dewar.798391878@gnat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3n5p9c$qjc@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us

Robert Johnson says (without smileys):

": Miranda????
: Languages are kind of a hobby with me, but I have NEVER heard of that
: one.
: T.E.D. (strucutred programming bigot)

Obviously, you are not in the main stream of Computer Science.

        Robert"

I don't think that's fair. Miranda has had very narrow use and circulation,
mostly because Turner decided to make it highly proprietary and try to make
money out of it. At one point he was threatening to sue people who he
thought were misappropriating his IPR's.

Fine he's entitled, given the state of IPR law, but the consequence is that
the language did not get much exposure.

I would not even bother mentioning Miranda to students, except perhaps as
a historical note. Today, Haskel is the appropriate inheritor of the
(valuable) ideas in Miranda -- primarily the dedication to true
referential transparency, with the full lazy evaluation semantics that
such dedication requires.





  reply	other threads:[~1995-04-20  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <3mq0jd$r10@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com>
1995-04-19  0:00 ` No top schools use Ada Kenneth Almquist
1995-04-18  0:00   ` cjames
1995-04-19  0:00     ` Kenneth Almquist
     [not found] ` <3n10sv$i97@gopher.cs.uofs.edu>
1995-04-19  0:00   ` Fernando Mato Mira
1995-04-20  0:00 ` Which first-course languages? (was: What schools use Eiffel (was: No top schools use Ada)) ? Spencer Allain
1995-04-20  0:00   ` Scott Wheeler
1995-04-21  0:00   ` Neil Wilson
     [not found] ` <NEWTNews.27781.798049024.ir001168@cec-services-01>
     [not found]   ` <3mrg2c$onn@disunms.epfl.ch>
     [not found]     ` <tomkwongD76x5L.AED@netcom.com>
1995-04-19  0:00       ` Theodore Dennison
1995-04-19  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-19  0:00         ` Theodore Dennison
1995-04-19  0:00           ` Scott Wheeler
1995-04-20  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-21  0:00               ` Jeremiah S Patterson
1995-04-21  0:00           ` Scott Wheeler
1995-04-20  0:00         ` Robert Johnson
1995-04-20  0:00           ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1995-04-20  0:00         ` Which first-course languages? (was: What schools use Eiffel (was Geert Bosch
1995-04-21  0:00         ` Which first-course languages? (was: What schools use Eiffel (was: No top schools use Ada)) ? Des Kenny
1995-04-21  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20  0:00   ` What schools use Eiffel ? Igor Chudov
1995-04-21  0:00 ` Madison Cloutier
     [not found] ` <D759Az.GHM@cs.fredonia.edu>
1995-04-19  0:00   ` No top schools use Ada Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]
1995-04-19  0:00   ` Ian S Nelson
1995-04-19  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20  0:00       ` First Language Debate etc Deepak Kumar
1995-04-20  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-21  0:00           ` Deepak Kumar
1995-04-20  0:00       ` No top schools use Ada Brian Hanson
1995-04-20  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-19  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]   ` <NEWTNews.19974.798127420.cjames@cec-services-01>
1995-04-18  0:00     ` Jay M Martin
1995-04-20  0:00     ` Vladimir Vukicevic
1995-04-20  0:00     ` Norman H. Cohen
1995-04-20  0:00       ` cjames
1995-04-22  0:00   ` Chris Morgan
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