* Re: ISO standards (see Ada95 chpt. 1.2)
1995-03-30 0:00 ` Ivan B. Cvar
@ 1995-03-30 0:00 ` David Weller
1995-04-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-03 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1995-04-03 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: David Weller @ 1995-03-30 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
In article <1995Mar30.204804.33330@ocsystems.com>,
Ivan B. Cvar <ibc@ocsystems.com> wrote:
>BTW, ANSI, in New York City, quoted me these prices for the ISO standards
>listed in Ada-95 RM, chapter 1.2:
>
>$US Pages ISO_Standard_# Description
>---+----+----------------+----------------------------------
>$266 511 ISO 8652:1995 Prog. languages - Ada
Hooboy..... looks like ANSI has cooked up a scheme more heinous than
MAKE.MONEY.FAST :-)
I guess telling you where you can ftp it from is just out of the
question, eh?
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1995-03-30 0:00 ` Ivan B. Cvar
1995-03-30 0:00 ` David Weller
@ 1995-04-03 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1995-04-04 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1995-04-05 0:00 ` Theodore Dennison
1995-04-03 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
2 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Norman H. Cohen @ 1995-04-03 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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In article <1995Mar30.204804.33330@ocsystems.com>, ibc@ocsystems.com
(Ivan B. Cvar) writes:
|> BTW, ANSI, in New York City, quoted me these prices for the ISO standards
|> listed in Ada-95 RM, chapter 1.2:
Yeah, you've gotta watch out for the cab drivers in NYC too.
(The few who are caught by the Taxi & Limosuine Commission for gouging
tourists lose their jobs and go to work for ANSI.)
|> $US Pages ISO_Standard_# Description
|> ---+----+----------------+----------------------------------
|> $373 754 ISO 10646-1:1993 Univ. Character Set (UCS) - Part 1 Arch. & BMP
|> $37 7 ISO 8859-1:1987 8-bit graphic character sets -- Latin-1 alphabet
|> $123 89 ISO 6429:1992 Control functions for coded character sets
|> $52 15 ISO 646:1991 ISO 7-bit ASCII character set
|> $224 369 ISO 1539:1991 Prog. languages - FORTRAN
|> $224 369 ISO 1539:1991 Prog. languages - FORTRAN
|> $13 1 ISO 1989:1985 Prog. languages - COBOL (Endorsement of ANSI std)
|> $266 511 ISO 8652:1995 Prog. languages - Ada
|> $166 219 ISO 9899:1990 Prog. languages - C
Some interesting statistics computed from Ivan's data:
Language standard $US Pages $US/Page
Fortran $224 369 0.61
COBOL $13 1 13.00
Ada $266 511 0.52
C $166 219 0.76
Clear evidence that Ada is the most cost-effective language!
;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
--
Norman H. Cohen ncohen@watson.ibm.com
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1995-04-03 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
@ 1995-04-04 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
1995-04-05 0:00 ` Theodore Dennison
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From: Michael Feldman @ 1995-04-04 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
In article <3lplqn$12p1@watnews1.watson.ibm.com>,
Norman H. Cohen <ncohen@watson.ibm.com> wrote:
>Some interesting statistics computed from Ivan's data:
>Language standard $US Pages $US/Page
> Fortran $224 369 0.61
> COBOL $13 1 13.00
> Ada $266 511 0.52
> C $166 219 0.76
>Clear evidence that Ada is the most cost-effective language!
>;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
You're absolutely right, Norm. I especially like the COBOL standard.
COBOL must be a _very_ concise language. :-)
Actually, for $39.95, one can pick up a copy of the Ada CD-ROM set,
which has all the Ada documents - LRM, Rationale, etc. etc., in
PostScript, ASCII, and HTML. Now THAT's cost-effective.. :-)
Ada is the only language for which the standard is, and will remain,
available free in electronic form.
Mike Feldman
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* Re: ISO standards (see Ada95 chpt. 1.2)
1995-04-03 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1995-04-04 0:00 ` Michael Feldman
@ 1995-04-05 0:00 ` Theodore Dennison
1995-04-05 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
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From: Theodore Dennison @ 1995-04-05 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
ncohen@watson.ibm.com (Norman H. Cohen) wrote:
>In article <1995Mar30.204804.33330@ocsystems.com>, ibc@ocsystems.com
>(Ivan B. Cvar) writes:
>|> $US Pages ISO_Standard_# Description
>|> ---+----+----------------+----------------------------------
>|> $13 1 ISO 1989:1985 Prog. languages - COBOL (Endorsement of ANSI std)
I am very curious as to how many people have actually paid ISO $13 for
that 1 page ANSI endorsement.
I guess if you have to have it, you have to have it.
T.E.D. (structured programming mafioso)
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* Re: ISO standards (see Ada95 chpt. 1.2)
1995-04-05 0:00 ` Theodore Dennison
@ 1995-04-05 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
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From: Larry Kilgallen @ 1995-04-05 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
In article <3lu5ks$26c@theopolis.orl.mmc.com>, Theodore Dennison <dennison@escmail.orl.mmc.com> writes:
> ncohen@watson.ibm.com (Norman H. Cohen) wrote:
>>In article <1995Mar30.204804.33330@ocsystems.com>, ibc@ocsystems.com
>>(Ivan B. Cvar) writes:
>>|> $US Pages ISO_Standard_# Description
>>|> ---+----+----------------+----------------------------------
>>|> $13 1 ISO 1989:1985 Prog. languages - COBOL (Endorsement of ANSI std)
>
>
> I am very curious as to how many people have actually paid ISO $13 for
> that 1 page ANSI endorsement.
And I am curious how many would admit it.
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* Re: ISO standards (see Ada95 chpt. 1.2)
1995-03-30 0:00 ` Ivan B. Cvar
1995-03-30 0:00 ` David Weller
1995-04-03 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
@ 1995-04-03 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
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From: Tucker Taft @ 1995-04-03 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
Ivan B. Cvar (ibc@ocsystems.com) wrote:
: Tucker Taft (stt@spock.camb.inmet.com ) writes:
: >
: > http://lglwww.epfl.ch/Ada/ has everything you could want.
: >
: That's a great Web page, but I couldn't find anything about the contents
: of ISO 10646-1:1993 in there. The Ada-95 RM, chapter 2.1(4,5,8,9) mentions
: Row 00 of ISO 10646 in many places, but the RM doesn't say what that means.
: I'd hate to waste $373 to find out that Row 00 is only a cryptic way of
: referring to a subset of Ada.Characters.Latin_1. What is this mysterious
: Row 00?
Row 00 represents the first 256 characters of ISO 10646, and is
in exact correspondence with what is called Latin-1, which is defined
by ISO 8859-1. Ada.Characters.Latin_1 provides names for the
various characters of Latin-1. You may eventually have to shell out
the money for ISO 10646 if you are going to "play" in the modern
multi-lingual world. The Basic Multilingual Plane (BMP) of ISO-10646
is equivalent to (revised) "Unicode," and you may be able to get
documents more cheaply from the Unicode consortium.
: BTW, ANSI, in New York City, quoted me these prices for the ISO standards
: listed in Ada-95 RM, chapter 1.2:
: $US Pages ISO_Standard_# Description
: ---+----+----------------+----------------------------------
: $373 754 ISO 10646-1:1993 Univ. Character Set (UCS) - Part 1 Arch. & BMP
: $37 7 ISO 8859-1:1987 8-bit graphic character sets -- Latin-1 alphabet
: $123 89 ISO 6429:1992 Control functions for coded character sets
: $52 15 ISO 646:1991 ISO 7-bit ASCII character set
: $224 369 ISO 1539:1991 Prog. languages - FORTRAN
: $224 369 ISO 1539:1991 Prog. languages - FORTRAN
: $13 1 ISO 1989:1985 Prog. languages - COBOL (Endorsement of ANSI std)
: $266 511 ISO 8652:1995 Prog. languages - Ada
: $166 219 ISO 9899:1990 Prog. languages - C
: ...Ivan
-Tucker Taft stt@inmet.com
Intermetrics, Inc.
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