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From: dale <dale@cs.rmit.edu.au>
Subject: Re: C vs. Ada - strings
Date: 2000/05/19
Date: 2000-05-19T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dale-3A29D2.10125319052000@news.rmit.edu.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: wcc8zx7ua2y.fsf@world.std.com

Robert A Duff wrote:

> > Yes, but with this simplicity you get a very real problem - the
> > inability to define new distinct numeric types.
> 
> I don't agree.  It's quite easy to design a language in which it is
> possible to define convenient output procedures, and still have multiple
> user-defined integer types.  And I don't mean by making all the output
> primitives built-in, either (as in Pascal) -- I/O should be done in
> library packages, not as built-in primitives.

I was really just restricting myself to commenting on Java, rather than
making a more generalised statment on language design (i.e. _if_ you 
choose Java, you don't get to define distinct numeric types).
I hadn't thought about getting I/O "for free" (i.e. no instantiation)
in a language which permitted multiple distinct integer types (I presume
this is what you are saying).



> > Note that you could always include your own package of functions
> > to get exactly the same behaviour as you see above in Java.
> 
> I don't see how.  Not if you have lots of user-defined integer types --
> you have to declare something extra for every integer type, which does
> not match the convenience of the Java routines.

Again i was only comparing this to Java. If you want to restrict
yourself to the primitives that Java provides, then you can easily
make a package that implements "+" functions to make concatenation
easier.


Dale




  reply	other threads:[~2000-05-19  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-05-02  0:00 C vs. Ada - strings Wes Groleau
2000-05-02  0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-05-02  0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-03  0:00   ` Pascal Obry
2000-05-03  0:00     ` Keith Thompson
2000-05-04  0:00       ` Wes Groleau
2000-05-18  0:00       ` Pete
2000-05-18  0:00         ` dale
2000-05-18  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-19  0:00             ` dale [this message]
2000-05-21  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
2000-05-22  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-22  0:00                 ` Keith Thompson
2000-05-24  0:00                 ` 'img Peter Hermann
2000-05-24  0:00                   ` 'img Robert Dewar
2000-05-24  0:00                     ` 'img Ted Dennison
2000-05-25  0:00                       ` 'img Peter Hermann
2000-05-25  0:00                         ` 'img Keith Thompson
2000-05-25  0:00                           ` 'img Ted Dennison
2000-05-26  0:00                         ` 'img dmitry
2000-05-26  0:00                           ` 'img Brian Rogoff
2000-05-26  0:00                             ` 'img Robert Dewar
2000-05-26  0:00                           ` 'img Robert Dewar
2000-05-25  0:00                       ` 'img Robert Dewar
2000-05-19  0:00         ` C vs. Ada - strings Geoff Bull
2000-05-19  0:00           ` mike
2000-05-21  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
2000-06-03  0:00           ` Pete
2000-06-03  0:00             ` Java vs. Ada - strings (was: C vs. Ada - strings) Ted Dennison
2000-06-04  0:00               ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-06-04  0:00               ` Pete
2000-06-04  0:00                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-06-04  0:00                   ` Pete
2000-06-05  0:00                     ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-06-05  0:00                 ` Ted Dennison
2000-06-05  0:00                   ` Marin D. Condic
2000-06-05  0:00                     ` David Botton
2000-06-05  0:00                       ` Marin D. Condic
2000-06-06  0:00                     ` Robert A Duff
2000-06-06  0:00                   ` Ken Garlington
2000-06-06  0:00                     ` Marin D. Condic
2000-06-03  0:00             ` C vs. Ada - strings Ken Garlington
2000-06-03  0:00               ` Ted Dennison
2000-06-04  0:00                 ` Ken Garlington
2000-06-04  0:00                 ` Dale Stanbrough
2000-05-03  0:00   ` Wes Groleau
2000-05-03  0:00     ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-04  0:00   ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-05-04  0:00     ` Gautier
2000-05-02  0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-03  0:00   ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-05-03  0:00     ` Charles Hixson
2000-05-04  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
2000-05-04  0:00       ` Charles Hixson
2000-05-06  0:00       ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-03  0:00   ` Wes Groleau
2000-05-03  0:00     ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-03  0:00       ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-04  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
2000-05-04  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-04  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
2000-05-05  0:00         ` Florian Weimer
2000-05-05  0:00           ` Pascal Obry
2000-05-05  0:00             ` Hyman Rosen
2000-05-06  0:00           ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-06  0:00             ` Florian Weimer
2000-05-07  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-05-09  0:00                 ` Florian Weimer
2000-05-04  0:00     ` Hyman Rosen
2000-05-04  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
2000-05-04  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
2000-05-05  0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-05-05  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
2000-05-05  0:00   ` Ted Dennison
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