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From: dale@cs.rmit.edu.au (Dale Stanbrough)
Subject: Re: Ada95 speed (wandering off topic slightly)
Date: 1999/06/03
Date: 1999-06-03T02:27:26+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dale-0306991227270001@dale.cs.rmit.edu.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 37558947.A1C12CA9@Maths.UniNe.CH

Gautier wrote:

" What an argument. Don't kill yourselves!
  The main problem is with Mac OS."
 
" With all these resource forks, hidden data types,
  opaque system, it's still more suited for word processing
  than Ada programming..."

What a _bizzare_ claim. Let's see if we can get Mr Gautier to
actually come up with some proof for his hypothesis (but don't 
hold your breath people. Bigots are rarely interested in 
_proving_ anything).

It is probably useful to remember that the word processing does
require a program, and that program is written in a language, and
that language is probably C or C++. You are saying that what you
seem to describe as a 'hostile programming environment' is 
unsuited to Ada


So let's spell it out nice and simply...

   Could you explain exactly what features in C or
   C++ lend themselves to programming in this environment, that
   precludes the use of Ada (a language designed to be used in
   embedded systems of all things!).



---Off topic items follow, please ignore------------------------

" Even usage of Web or networks
  is handicaped by that file typing (using it every day)."


Darn, I thought that if I used my Mac I would be able to use the
internet. Now i know better! I probably can't even reply to news
postings...


"An iMac with Mac OS 8.5, 96MB RAM is as slow as a 486 DX 33 when
  network or files are involved."


A rather strange claim. I wonder what "slow when files are involved"
means. Certainly I don't think that the file system of the Mac OS is
anything great by any means, but this seems like a rather strange
claim. Have you ever _really_ conducted proper timing comparisons,
with the two machines side by side (i.e. not just having fond memories
of the "old days")?


"No command line or programming environment that come built-in."

You do have applescript, which is a programming environment, last 
time I looked. My PC at home doesn't have a programming environment
at all. I must say that i don't really miss not having a command line
for 99% of the work i do.


"Maybe Mac OS XXIII will improve that but I have doubts..."

Do you even know what Mac OS X _is_?

Dale




  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-06-03  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <374182F2.B10AD449@Maths.UniNe.CH>
1999-05-18  0:00 ` Ada95 speed Tom Moran
1999-05-18  0:00   ` Gautier
1999-05-19  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-20  0:00       ` Clifford J. Nelson
1999-05-20  0:00         ` Tucker Taft
1999-05-20  0:00           ` Tom Moran
1999-05-20  0:00             ` Tom Moran
1999-05-21  0:00               ` Tom Moran
1999-05-31  0:00         ` James E. Hopper
1999-06-01  0:00           ` Clifford J. Nelson
1999-06-01  0:00             ` James E. Hopper
1999-06-02  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-04  0:00               ` Clifford J. Nelson
1999-06-05  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-01  0:00           ` Clifford J. Nelson
1999-06-01  0:00             ` James E. Hopper
1999-06-02  0:00               ` Clifford J. Nelson
1999-06-04  0:00                 ` Clifford J. Nelson
1999-06-02  0:00             ` James E. Hopper
1999-06-02  0:00               ` Clifford J. Nelson
1999-06-02  0:00                 ` James E. Hopper
1999-06-02  0:00                   ` Clifford J. Nelson
1999-06-02  0:00                     ` John B. Matthews, M.D.
1999-06-02  0:00                       ` Clifford J. Nelson
1999-06-02  0:00                     ` Gautier
1999-06-02  0:00                       ` John B. Matthews, M.D.
1999-06-03  0:00                       ` Dale Stanbrough [this message]
1999-06-03  0:00                         ` Ada95 speed (wandering off topic slightly) Larry Kilgallen
1999-06-04  0:00                           ` Aidan Skinner
1999-06-02  0:00             ` Ada95 speed Robert Dewar
1999-06-04  0:00               ` Clifford J. Nelson
1999-06-04  0:00                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-06-04  0:00                 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1999-06-03  0:00           ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-05-31  0:00       ` Gautier
1999-05-19  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
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