Re: Every little bit helps - Publicity in Embedded Systems Development

["RasikaSrinivasan@gmail.com" <RasikaSrinivasan@gmail.com>]

I didnt realize IBM had an Ada compiler. Is this based on gnat? (I
will now go to google)

Any case what does "full SDK" Ada mean? Packages to O/S like starlet
used to be for VMS?


On Jan 30, 4:19 am, a...@anon.org (anon) wrote:
> Except for a few OS like Linux or the many favors of BSD, a software
> developer have to pay extra to get the tools to access the full features of
> the OS, even if a free or low cost compiler is provided.  These tools with
> documentation are normally call a Software Development Kit (SDK).
>
> And if you check with IBM, they have two version of Ada. One is a CDROM
> compiler only version which sells for less than $200.00 with what they
> call a media license.  But the full SDK Ada version starts around $15K per
> year which is about the same price for Adacore's GNAT Pro.
>
> So, compilers may be cheap but you will pay and pay big for the addition
> of the SDK.
>
> I just wish that Adacore would think about offering the Ravenscar subsystem
> as a separate package that may be free or they could charge a onetime fee
> for a non-updatable version of the package.
>
> Now, as for the article well its like a reviewer says the movie is Great, but
> there is no valid information on why its GREAT!
>
> In <u-6dnX_qZOC4rh_UnZ2dneKdnZydn...@giganews.com>, Martyn Pike <emco...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> >RasikaSriniva...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>http://www.embedded.com/212902632?cid=NL_embedded
>
> >An interesting article, but is it 100% accurate ?
>
> >*Some* free tools maybe but I disagree with the implication that all
> >those ports to most mainstream 16 and 32 bit CPUs are free.
>
> >As far as I am aware, the profiles referenced here
> >(http://www.adacore.com/home/gnatpro/toolsuite/runtimes/) are not free,
> >not licensed by the GPL and only available to GNAT Pro customers ?
>
> >If I call Adacore up and say :
>
> >"Where can I download a pre-built binary free/GPL version of GNAT that
> >is hosted on Windows but cross compiles to PowerPC and gives me a
> >Ravenscar Profile compliant runtime for my hypothetical barebones hobby
> >project ?"
>
> >I would be told those requirements mean I needed a GNAT Pro subscription
> >which is not free.
>
> >I quote the article :
>
> > > Tasking is a built-in feature, not a bolt-on requiring
> > > expensive dalliances with RTOS vendors
>
> >Those expensive dalliances still exist, but I feel the Ada developer
> >actually pays twice.  They pay the RTOS vendor for the OS license and
> >stock tools and then they have to pay Adacore for the Ada tools that
> >layer GNARL/GNULL ontop of the RTOS.
>
> >If I chose the language supported by the RTOS vendors stock tools
> >(invariably C/C++) then I only pay the RTOS vendor.  Albeit I would pay
> >in blood, sweat and tears later on in my project lifecycle !
>
> >It is very confusing for me, as an Ada developer, to read an article
> >like this and not feel like new converts to the Ada cause are being spammed.
>
> >Please correct me if I am wrong.  I am not knocking Jack Ganssle or
> >Adacore for their efforts but I find this article slightly misleading.
>
> >Martyn
>
>