From: darkestkhan <darkestkhan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fuzzy machine learning framework v1.2
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 06:59:43 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2012-06-02T06:59:43-07:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d7436b43-7ede-4b7c-b0bd-e42f35ffe118@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <op.we9txirdule2fv@douda-yannick>
On Saturday, June 2, 2012 10:25:56 AM UTC, Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne) wrote:
> Le Sat, 02 Jun 2012 10:06:23 +0200, Simon Wright <simon@pushface.org> a
> écrit:
> > Is there evidence for "the doubt about the GPL is increasing"?
>
> Well, “increasing” may be misleading as it does not explicitly express an
> amount by which. I should have said “visibly increasing” (enough to be
> visible). I have a web connection at home since about 2005, and at that
> time, there was near to no visible opposition to the GPL which was
> glorified every where. Questioning seems more frequent to me since some
> time (two or three years?). Some big enough examples I have in mind, is an
> affair with WordPress themes designers [?], who suddenly was [?] forced to release
> their works under the GPL, after multiple years selling their works under
> another license (someone lately noticed a trick implying they now had to
> release their work under GPL). This case made some noise, as this themes
> author made a living from it.
So? He broke license in the first place so he should be publishing his work under GPL. On the other hand I don't see how he can't make living selling GPL'd themes - after all he isn't required to give them for free nor is he required to give sources to everyone [in fact he has to give them only to buyers]. And don't say that people would be sharing his work with everyone - after all GNAT Pro also is under GPL and we don't see many people sharing it.
> Another one, is Aqsis (a RenderMan
> processor), which migrated its license from GPL to BSD (the author said if
> contributors don't agree, then their contributions will simply be removed
> from Aqsis).
So? There is also Apache and OpenOffice... I don't see how is it relevant.
[on the other hand you have Altran Praxis and Spark]
> There was a story about Perle and a dual licensing said to be
> “the Perle way to undermine the GPL virus”.
> If you search the web for “GPL
> is not free”, you will get a reasonable amount of results for that exact
> sentence. From time to time, I see some other kinds of questioning,
> sometime dealing with commercial activities (in fact impossible, and the
> contradiction with what the FSF says leave people with a bad feeling),
> sometime about whither or not the GPL really protects authors theft
> (project hijacking and the like), and others. Either this was not their 5
> to 6 years ago, or else I've missed it at that time, just to say I feel to
> see more now than before.
>
Oh, it was - after searching for "gpl is not free" what I get in most search results is mostly from 2003 - 2008 : with many of it from Skype [they breached OpenMoko's license] and SCO [which was saying that GPL is unconstitutional].
It is comming back now because Apple is [and Microsoft is trying to] prohibiting sales of GPL licensed software in Apple Store.
> To not talk also about miss-interpretations, when some people choose to
> release under the GPL because they believe the GPL is “this and that”, and
> is not, which is source of confusion, and confusion leads to
> recriminations too.
>
If they release something about license they misinterpreted it is their sole responsibility. But if they are the sole proprietors of work then they can relicense.
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Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-28 10:08 ANN: Fuzzy machine learning framework v1.2 Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-28 11:36 ` J-P. Rosen
2012-05-28 11:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-28 14:56 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-05-28 18:19 ` Nomen Nescio
2012-05-28 17:55 ` ANN: " Simon Wright
2012-05-28 20:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-28 19:23 ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-05-28 20:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-28 21:05 ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-05-29 2:30 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-29 7:21 ` Simon Wright
2012-05-29 1:44 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-28 13:42 ` Kulin
2012-05-28 14:56 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-05-28 18:34 ` Nomen Nescio
2012-05-28 19:13 ` Simon Wright
2012-05-28 19:20 ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-05-29 2:18 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-29 9:38 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-05-29 16:11 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-29 16:57 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-05-29 17:39 ` georg bauhaus
2012-05-29 22:45 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-31 0:28 ` BrianG
2012-05-29 21:35 ` Nomen Nescio
2012-05-30 18:21 ` Zhu Qun-Ying
2012-05-30 20:46 ` Nomen Nescio
2012-05-30 22:14 ` Zhu Qun-Ying
2012-06-01 18:12 ` darkestkhan
2012-05-29 8:23 ` Nomen Nescio
2012-05-29 12:32 ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-05-29 16:15 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-29 22:48 ` Nomen Nescio
2012-05-29 23:31 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-29 2:06 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-29 7:31 ` Nomen Nescio
2012-05-29 9:13 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-05-29 7:58 ` Gustaf Thorslund
2012-05-29 18:25 ` onox
2012-05-30 20:56 ` Gustaf Thorslund
2012-05-29 16:45 ` Thomas Løcke
2012-05-29 21:00 ` Kulin
2012-05-29 22:26 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-30 16:38 ` Fritz Wuehler
2012-05-30 18:34 ` Kulin
2012-05-31 2:17 ` BrianG
2012-06-01 18:25 ` darkestkhan
2012-06-02 0:57 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-02 5:43 ` darkestkhan
2012-06-02 7:02 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-02 8:06 ` Simon Wright
2012-06-02 10:25 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-02 13:59 ` darkestkhan [this message]
2012-06-02 16:31 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-02 16:33 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-02 19:30 ` Simon Wright
2012-06-02 20:29 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-02 19:31 ` darkestkhan
2012-06-02 20:49 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-03 6:52 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-06-02 10:52 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-06-02 11:48 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-02 14:44 ` darkestkhan
2012-06-02 16:51 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-02 17:59 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-06-02 19:40 ` darkestkhan
2012-06-02 20:59 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-03 8:14 ` Simon Wright
2012-06-03 8:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-03 10:45 ` Nomen Nescio
2012-06-03 18:17 ` Simon Wright
2012-05-29 22:36 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-28 17:42 ` ANN: " Simon Wright
2012-05-29 1:59 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-29 7:16 ` Simon Wright
2012-05-31 2:35 ` BrianG
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