From: Maciej Sobczak <see.my.homepage@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ada Annoyances
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 13:50:04 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2017-06-24T13:50:04-07:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d5ee7565-62b8-47b8-8632-43a36835d260@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <oila54$4b5$1@gioia.aioe.org>
> > I see no practical benefit from this. Can you provide some motivating example?
>
> Dispatch upon object construction.
[...]
I have asked for a motivating example - that is, something practical, not some incomplete Foo/Bar stub. I still see no benefit.
> In C++ you can have T and S parts, plus a language hack that kills
> dispatching while there.
Wrong.
C++ does not kill any dispatching anywhere. Calls to virtual functions from constructors/destructors are dispatching. The language only makes sure that the dynamic type (that is, the potential range of dispatching calls) follows the already constructed part of the object and is never ahead of it (because that would be unsafe). This is type safety applied in the place where the effective type of the object changes (!) at run-time. This is not a hack, this is exactly how it should be done.
Your example does not show anything that could not be achieved in C++ - in which case I'm not convinced.
--
Maciej Sobczak * http://www.inspirel.com
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2017-06-21 1:12 Ada Annoyances pythoner6
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2017-06-23 15:27 ` raph.amiard
2017-06-23 17:49 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-06-23 19:21 ` Niklas Holsti
2017-06-24 4:02 ` Shark8
2017-06-24 19:55 ` Simon Wright
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2017-06-25 23:43 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-06-26 20:20 ` Niklas Holsti
2017-06-26 21:47 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-06-26 22:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-06-29 19:00 ` Niklas Holsti
2017-06-29 21:29 ` Robert A Duff
2017-06-30 0:50 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-07-03 20:39 ` Robert A Duff
2017-07-04 19:52 ` Niklas Holsti
2017-07-04 19:32 ` Niklas Holsti
2017-06-30 0:47 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-06-30 18:45 ` Niklas Holsti
2017-06-30 20:06 ` Robert A Duff
2017-06-29 21:12 ` Robert A Duff
2017-07-04 19:30 ` Niklas Holsti
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2017-06-23 19:22 ` Niklas Holsti
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2017-07-03 0:04 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-07-03 17:47 ` Jere
2017-07-03 19:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-07-04 2:18 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-17 13:47 ` Prefixed notation for non tagged types Jere
2017-12-17 15:06 ` Simon Wright
2017-12-17 15:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-12-18 22:31 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-19 0:40 ` Jere
2017-12-19 23:04 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-20 12:33 ` Robert Eachus
2017-06-21 11:58 ` Ada Annoyances joakimds
2017-06-21 12:29 ` Pascal Obry
2017-06-21 14:52 ` pythoner6
2017-06-21 16:11 ` J-P. Rosen
2017-06-21 16:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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2017-06-22 7:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-06-22 10:29 ` pythoner6
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2017-06-22 13:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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2017-06-22 21:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-06-23 9:33 ` AdaMagica
2017-06-23 10:25 ` Simon Wright
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2017-06-23 15:23 ` raph.amiard
2017-06-23 16:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-06-23 17:41 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-06-23 18:56 ` Maciej Sobczak
2017-06-23 22:18 ` pythoner6
2017-06-24 8:05 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-06-24 8:35 ` Maciej Sobczak
2017-06-24 9:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-06-24 20:50 ` Maciej Sobczak [this message]
2017-06-24 21:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-06-25 11:33 ` Maciej Sobczak
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2017-06-25 20:50 ` Maciej Sobczak
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2017-06-26 13:24 ` Maciej Sobczak
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2017-06-26 20:42 ` Maciej Sobczak
2017-06-24 8:34 ` Maciej Sobczak
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2017-06-26 21:40 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-06-27 7:23 ` Maciej Sobczak
2017-06-27 20:38 ` Randy Brukardt
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2017-06-29 7:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-06-29 16:24 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-06-29 16:51 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2017-07-04 23:40 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-07-05 5:29 ` J-P. Rosen
2017-07-05 13:49 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-07-05 17:49 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-06-29 21:46 ` darkestkhan
2017-06-29 7:15 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-06-30 0:42 ` Randy Brukardt
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2017-06-28 13:07 ` Maciej Sobczak
2017-06-27 7:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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2017-06-28 7:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-06-27 15:19 ` AdaMagica
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2017-06-28 13:15 ` Maciej Sobczak
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2017-06-30 7:49 ` J-P. Rosen
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