From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Avatox 1.0: Trouble with encoding in Windows
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:46:21 +0200
Date: 2006-09-16T09:46:05+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d2k1w4avbl71.a3iefvlvh858.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 00:29:24 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-09-15 at 20:53 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>
>> IMO, the idea to use Unicode for program sources is wrong. The language (be
>> it formal or natural) should have a finite and reasonably small alphabet.
>> Unicode is practically an open-end set of symbols most of them you wouldn't
>> be able to either recognize or remember again.
>
> Unicode is quite flexible and allows a project to choose a reasonable
> subset of characters. A portable subset is fairly easy to describe
> because both Ada and UCS define a common character set from which you
> can choose. No lengthy discussions of how to interpret 8 bits,
> no issues with conforming compilers.
Are you disagree with the point? How can a language be based on multiple
alphabets? [you are talking about subsets] Would it be still one language?
In the history there are examples of written natural languages changing
alphabets.
> Greek.Ω /= Electric.Ω is an issue in Ada 95, too, when you
> use local character sets for two different files.
>
> Shou1d the number l, sorry, 1, not occur in source text, because it
> is too easy to miss the difference, so please, remove it from the
> Ada grammar? ;-)
That is an issue of choosing a proper typeface. But Omega (glyph) is same.
Code positions (semantic meaning of the symbol, Ohm vs. Greek Omega) are
different. Exactly this is wrong. Because the semantics of a symbol is to
be defined solely by the language, by Ada in our case. Unicode is not a
language, so far, however, nothing would prevent us to define a Unicode
position for any possible Ada program... (:-))
> You can extend the Unicode subset chosen for the project later, without
> introducing ambiguity or a configuration issue. Using Unicode for
> program source text lets you write identifiers that just cannot coexists
> in Latin_1, or any 8bit character set.
There are many ways to make code unmaintainable, like writing identifiers
in linear B syllabary...
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-11 8:24 Avatox 1.0: Trouble with encoding in Windows Manuel Collado
2006-09-11 10:35 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-09-11 13:49 ` Avatox 1.1: " Manuel Collado
2006-09-11 16:43 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-09-11 17:50 ` Björn Persson
2006-09-12 0:06 ` Marc A. Criley
2006-09-12 8:35 ` Manuel Collado
2006-09-13 0:01 ` Avatox 1.0: " Randy Brukardt
2006-09-13 9:01 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-09-13 19:28 ` Björn Persson
2006-09-14 6:34 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-09-14 23:09 ` Björn Persson
2006-09-14 22:13 ` Björn Persson
2006-09-16 7:40 ` Martin Krischik
2006-09-16 9:43 ` Björn Persson
2006-09-16 9:59 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-09-16 11:15 ` Björn Persson
2006-09-17 9:30 ` Martin Krischik
2006-09-13 10:32 ` Manuel Collado
2006-09-13 18:28 ` Björn Persson
2006-09-14 8:11 ` Manuel Collado
2006-09-13 23:05 ` Randy Brukardt
2006-09-13 11:04 ` vgodunko
2006-09-14 8:56 ` Martin Krischik
2006-09-14 21:16 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-09-14 22:55 ` Björn Persson
2006-09-15 23:15 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-09-16 7:38 ` Martin Krischik
2006-09-17 19:41 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-09-15 5:47 ` Martin Krischik
2006-09-15 23:16 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-09-16 7:31 ` Martin Krischik
2006-09-17 19:43 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-09-15 9:41 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-09-15 23:28 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-09-16 9:52 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-09-16 10:31 ` Björn Persson
2006-09-17 19:57 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-09-18 0:06 ` Björn Persson
2006-09-18 20:14 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-09-16 5:10 ` Simon Wright
2006-09-15 18:11 ` Pascal Obry
2006-09-15 18:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-09-15 22:29 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-09-16 7:46 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2006-09-15 23:35 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-09-15 5:34 ` Simon Wright
2006-09-12 9:52 ` Stephen Leake
2006-09-19 1:16 ` Marc A. Criley
2006-09-19 9:20 ` Stephen Leake
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