From: Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid>
Subject: Re: Running a preprocessor from GPS?
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 14:22:33 +0300
Date: 2015-07-30T14:22:33+03:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d1ufnpFt10rU1@mid.individual.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b68e14e7-e304-4220-81f5-67a88cef5767@googlegroups.com>
On 15-07-30 11:45 , EGarrulo wrote:
> On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 10:23:23 AM UTC+2, Georg Bauhaus wrote:
>> On 30.07.15 10:03, EGarrulo wrote:
>>> Not to mention
>>> the crippled support for exceptions in Ada.
>>
>> Do you mean that exceptions of Ada cannot be used for indirecting
>> non-local control flow with the help of exception objects?
>
> Exceptions in Ada cannot carry contextual information, Where
> is the usefulness of knowing that something has gone awry,
> without any context? For example: "'File not found?' What file
> was the program trying to open, and why?"
I suspect that you are conflating two possible uses of exception-handling:
1. To let the program detect and possibly recover automatically from
run-time failures.
2. To inform the program's user about run-time failures so that the user
can understand what went wrong and how to correct it.
Ada's exception facility was designed for (1), and is only indirectly
useful for (2). The idea is that exceptions should be handled at a level
that knows enough about the context to perform the recovery, or to
describe the details of the failure to the user.
For example, the idiom for opening a file is:
File_Name : String := ...
begin
Open (File, Name => File_Name, ...);
-- Successful: do something with the File.
exception when ... =>
-- Here the handler knows which file we tried to open
-- and can act accordingly.
end;
This can be a bit cumbersome in case one needs to open several files in
sequence, but then one must also consider if the program should (a)
abort on the first missing file, or (b) attempt to open them all, so
that it can give the user a complete list of missing files. Associating
the name of the missing file with the exception occurrence would help
with (a), but not really with the more user-friendly (b).
> Exceptions in Ada cannot ... be chained
I'm not sure what you mean by "chained", but an Ada exception handler
can either raise another exception, or re-raise the same exception, for
handling at higher levels.
--
Niklas Holsti
Tidorum Ltd
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2015-07-27 14:28 Running a preprocessor from GPS? EGarrulo
2015-07-27 16:47 ` David Botton
2015-07-27 17:17 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-27 20:26 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-27 21:14 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-27 22:23 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-28 7:23 ` Simon Wright
2015-07-28 11:36 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-28 21:12 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-28 22:11 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-28 22:41 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-29 9:52 ` G.B.
2015-07-29 20:32 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-29 22:32 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-29 23:51 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-30 0:10 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 6:01 ` Niklas Holsti
2015-07-30 7:33 ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-30 8:03 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 8:08 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-07-30 8:37 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 8:49 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-30 12:15 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 14:11 ` G.B.
2015-07-30 19:29 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-30 20:53 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 22:52 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-31 7:29 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-31 7:53 ` gautier_niouzes
2015-07-31 8:26 ` Simon Wright
2015-07-31 9:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-31 9:31 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-31 11:01 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-31 13:50 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-31 16:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-31 11:26 ` Brian Drummond
2015-07-31 12:12 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-31 12:15 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-31 17:54 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-31 18:20 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-31 18:51 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-01 7:20 ` Simon Wright
2015-08-01 8:06 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-01 8:33 ` Simon Wright
2015-08-01 10:47 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-01 11:27 ` Simon Wright
2015-08-01 11:44 ` Niklas Holsti
2015-08-01 12:19 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-01 17:49 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-01 18:15 ` Paul Rubin
2015-08-01 18:59 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-01 20:30 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-08-01 20:44 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-01 22:44 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-01 23:39 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-02 0:02 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-02 0:18 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-02 0:30 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-02 6:05 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-02 8:29 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-02 19:21 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-02 21:37 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-03 2:35 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-02 2:53 ` Paul Rubin
2015-08-02 6:07 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-02 8:36 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-01 16:53 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-01 17:00 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-01 7:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 8:23 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-30 8:45 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 9:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 11:22 ` Niklas Holsti [this message]
2015-07-30 13:00 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 13:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 13:51 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 14:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 14:46 ` Simon Wright
2015-07-30 14:31 ` G.B.
2015-07-30 18:46 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-30 9:18 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 18:55 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-30 19:32 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-31 0:10 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-30 11:35 ` Brian Drummond
2015-07-30 13:30 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-31 11:07 ` Brian Drummond
2015-07-30 8:28 ` Pascal Obry
2015-07-30 12:00 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 10:01 ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-30 10:59 ` Pascal Obry
2015-07-30 11:21 ` gautier_niouzes
2015-07-30 18:35 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-31 15:21 ` Stefan.Lucks
2015-07-31 17:28 ` Pascal Obry
2015-08-01 11:38 ` Björn Lundin
2015-08-01 20:07 ` Stefan.Lucks
2015-08-03 23:26 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-30 6:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 6:37 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-30 8:27 ` Pascal Obry
2015-07-30 9:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 11:51 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 12:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 13:55 ` Niklas Holsti
2015-08-30 7:03 ` David Thompson
2015-07-30 14:07 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 18:12 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-30 18:51 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 19:27 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-30 19:54 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 22:53 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-30 23:58 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-30 11:54 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 12:42 ` Pascal Obry
2015-07-30 13:21 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 13:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 13:55 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 15:23 ` Niklas Holsti
2015-07-30 19:32 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-30 20:10 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-31 0:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-31 6:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-08-02 10:08 ` EGarrulo
2015-08-02 12:15 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-29 23:45 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 0:25 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-30 8:12 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 18:01 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-29 6:46 ` Simon Wright
2015-07-29 7:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-29 19:57 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-29 20:09 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-30 18:16 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-29 20:38 ` Simon Wright
2015-07-30 7:50 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-07-30 14:48 ` G.B.
2015-07-30 15:58 ` Simon Wright
2015-07-30 15:13 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 15:21 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 15:29 ` G.B.
2015-07-30 16:02 ` Simon Wright
2015-07-30 16:15 ` Simon Wright
2015-07-30 16:29 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-30 17:31 ` Simon Wright
2015-07-28 10:28 ` Brian Drummond
2015-07-28 11:39 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-29 10:02 ` Brian Drummond
2015-07-29 10:29 ` Brian Drummond
2015-07-29 12:00 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-29 19:23 ` gautier_niouzes
2015-07-28 11:43 ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-28 11:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-28 12:06 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-28 12:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-28 13:18 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-28 13:49 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-28 14:02 ` Bob Duff
2015-07-28 14:57 ` G.B.
2015-07-28 15:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-29 7:15 ` Stefan.Lucks
2015-07-29 7:52 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-29 17:30 ` Stefan.Lucks
2015-07-29 18:49 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-29 20:40 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-30 7:40 ` gautier_niouzes
2015-07-30 19:22 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-28 13:06 ` G.B.
2015-07-28 13:19 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-28 20:55 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-28 22:31 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-29 20:09 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-29 22:40 ` EGarrulo
2015-07-28 12:07 ` Björn Lundin
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