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From: Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid>
Subject: Re: If not Ada, what else...
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:15:36 +0300
Date: 2015-07-30T09:15:36+03:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d1tto8Fogq6U1@mid.individual.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87si86mehp.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net>

On 15-07-30 07:54 , Paul Rubin wrote:
> "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com> writes:
>> It would be completely unnecessary to use any GC with the Ada containers.
>
> It just depends on what the program is doing--if the absence of GC
> constrains how you organize your program, then you are missing out on
> something by not having it.
>
> Consider a multi-threaded program whose threads communicate through
> async queues.  So a work request comes into one thread, it gets decoded
> into a dictionary (container instance), and then the dictionary is
> dropped onto a queue.  Another thread later picks it up and processes
> it, sending the results through yet another queue.  This is a very
> common way to write a Python or Erlang program.  But it means you can't
> rely on syntactic scoping to know when a container is no longer in use.
> You either have to carefully track where every reference might be, or
> else use an automatic reclamation scheme (refcounts, GC, or whatever).

No problem doing that with Ada containers. The first thread creates the 
dictionary in its own container variable, then uses the container's Move 
operation to move the data into the queue. This erases the first 
thread's container variable, so its finalization has essentially nothing 
to do. The second thread uses Move to extract the data from the queue 
into its own container variable; when that variable is finalized, the 
dictionary data are deallocated.

Reference counting or whatever is done within the container libraries.

-- 
Niklas Holsti
Tidorum Ltd
niklas holsti tidorum fi
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2011-04-20 10:39 If not Ada, what else Alex R. Mosteo
2011-04-20 10:51 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-04-21  8:47   ` Alex R. Mosteo
2011-04-20 11:53 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-04-21  8:46   ` Alex R. Mosteo
2011-04-23  2:08     ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-04-21 17:19 ` Robert Matthews
2011-04-21 19:02   ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-04-21 19:25   ` Florian Weimer
2011-04-22 15:50     ` Robert Matthews
2011-04-22 17:49       ` Brad Cantrell
2011-04-23  2:20         ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-04-23  9:55           ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-04-23 11:17             ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-04-22 21:39       ` Florian Weimer
2011-04-23  2:26         ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-04-23  9:52 ` björn lundin
2011-04-23 11:50 ` Piotr Trojanek
2011-04-23 12:23   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-04-23 14:30     ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-04-23 15:04       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-04-23 16:16     ` Piotr Trojanek
2011-04-28 12:55   ` C++/cmake project, injecting Ada... (was Re: If not Ada, what else...) Alex R. Mosteo
2011-04-28 16:34     ` C++/cmake project, injecting Ada Ludovic Brenta
2011-04-29  8:17       ` Alex R. Mosteo
2011-04-29 12:45         ` stefan-lucks
2015-07-02 10:44         ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2011-05-28 17:33     ` C++/cmake project, injecting Ada... (was Re: If not Ada, what else...) Dirk Heinrichs
2015-07-03 19:21 ` If not Ada, what else luvhed
2015-07-03 20:50   ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-04  8:19 ` Rod Kay
2015-07-08 18:11 ` jm.tarrasa
2015-07-08 20:33   ` Anh Vo
2015-07-09  6:36     ` jm.tarrasa
2015-07-08 22:15   ` David Botton
2015-07-09  7:28     ` jm.tarrasa
2015-07-09  9:54       ` G.B.
2015-07-09 12:57       ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-07-09 18:25       ` David Botton
2015-07-09 21:15         ` Bob Duff
2015-07-09 22:23           ` David Botton
2015-07-09 22:39             ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-10  0:20               ` David Botton
2015-07-10  4:26                 ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-10 15:01                   ` David Botton
2015-07-10 16:07                     ` David Botton
2015-07-10 17:39                       ` Bob Duff
2015-07-10 18:22                     ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-10 19:10                       ` David Botton
2015-07-10 19:43                         ` Patrick Noffke
2015-07-11 10:46                           ` Brian Drummond
2015-07-11 10:59                             ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-11 13:41                               ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-11 14:11                                 ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-13 14:02                             ` Patrick Noffke
2015-07-13 14:16                               ` David Botton
2015-07-13 14:54                                 ` Maciej Sobczak
2015-07-16 20:19                                 ` Serge Robyns
2015-07-17  1:50                                   ` David Botton
2015-07-17 17:07                                     ` Anh Vo
2015-07-17 21:28                                       ` Serge Robyns
2015-07-17 22:53                                         ` Anh Vo
2015-07-19 14:31                                       ` David Botton
2015-07-19 16:20                                         ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-19 20:55                                           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-19 21:15                                             ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-20 16:08                                               ` Tero Koskinen
2015-07-20 17:31                                                 ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-21  1:16                                                   ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-07-21  3:09                                                     ` Shark8
2015-07-21 12:46                                                       ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-07-21  5:43                                                   ` J-P. Rosen
2015-07-21 12:47                                                     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-07-21 12:55                                                       ` J-P. Rosen
2015-07-19 22:38                                           ` David Botton
2015-07-21  6:30                                     ` Gour
2015-07-21 16:24                                       ` David Botton
2015-07-21 17:29                                         ` Niklas Holsti
2015-07-21 18:51                                           ` Simon Wright
2015-07-21 19:36                                             ` David Botton
2015-07-22  8:44                                               ` Pascal Obry
2015-07-22 12:00                                               ` Jean François Martinez
2015-07-27 22:59                                                 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-28  7:00                                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-28  7:22                                                     ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-28 10:36                                                       ` darkestkhan
2015-07-28 10:58                                                       ` G.B.
2015-07-28 20:33                                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-28 10:40                                                   ` darkestkhan
2015-07-29  7:30                                                     ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-07-29  8:55                                                       ` Simon Wright
2015-07-29 12:38                                                   ` EGarrulo
2015-07-29 13:06                                                     ` EGarrulo
2015-07-29 15:41                                                     ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-29 17:01                                                       ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-29 18:27                                                         ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-29 18:52                                                           ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-29 22:18                                                             ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-30  6:23                                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 16:48                                                                 ` David Botton
2015-07-30 18:10                                                               ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-29 19:18                                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-29 19:42                                                             ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-30  4:54                                                               ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-30  6:15                                                                 ` Niklas Holsti [this message]
2015-07-30  6:34                                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30  6:47                                                                   ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-30  7:20                                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 23:13                                                                       ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-29 17:07                                                       ` Stefan.Lucks
2015-07-29 17:47                                                         ` Paul Rubin
2015-08-21 23:03                                                           ` Waldek Hebisch
2015-08-22  3:24                                                             ` Paul Rubin
2015-08-23 16:26                                                               ` Waldek Hebisch
2015-08-23 17:18                                                                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-23 17:31                                                                   ` Waldek Hebisch
2015-08-23 19:32                                                                     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-23 23:01                                                               ` Waldek Hebisch
2015-07-29 19:32                                                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-30  5:17                                                         ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-30  7:38                                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-30 18:26                                                             ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-30 18:37                                                               ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-31  7:14                                                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-30 10:59                                                     ` darkestkhan
2015-08-19 22:19                                                 ` rriehle
2015-08-19 22:58                                                   ` Anh Vo
2015-08-19 23:32                                                     ` rriehle
2015-08-20  1:08                                                       ` Peter Chapin
2015-08-21 15:14                                                       ` Anh Vo
2015-08-21 16:07                                                         ` Anh Vo
2015-08-21 17:17                                                           ` Patrick Noffke
2015-07-21 19:51                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-21 21:06                                               ` Simon Wright
2015-07-21 21:51                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-21 22:55                                                   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-22  7:26                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-22  9:05                                                       ` Mart van de Wege
2015-07-22 10:27                                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-22  7:01                                                   ` Simon Wright
2015-07-22  7:35                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-27 23:02                                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-27 22:44                                                 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-28  7:30                                                   ` Simon Wright
2015-07-28 20:39                                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-29  7:12                                                       ` Simon Wright
2015-07-29 11:11                                                         ` vincent.diemunsch
2015-07-29 19:31                                                         ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-22 12:53                                               ` Vincent
2015-07-22 13:59                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-21 20:05                                             ` J-P. Rosen
2015-07-21 21:02                                               ` Simon Wright
2015-07-21 23:40                                               ` Shark8
2015-07-22 12:58                                               ` vincent.diemunsch
2015-07-22 13:40                                                 ` J-P. Rosen
2015-07-22 14:29                                                   ` Vincent
2015-07-21 19:30                                           ` David Botton
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2015-08-21  5:21                                       ` Shark8
2015-08-21 17:39                                       ` David Botton
2015-07-11  2:31                         ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-11  6:00                           ` J-P. Rosen
2015-07-11  7:51                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-11  8:47                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-21  1:34                           ` Luke A. Guest
2015-07-27  9:09                       ` Assertions in SPARK (Was: If not Ada, what else...) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-07-27 10:56                         ` G.B.
2015-07-27 21:59                           ` Peter Chapin
2015-07-11 11:10                   ` If not Ada, what else Pascal Obry
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