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From: Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid>
Subject: Re: Ada design bug or GNAT bug?
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:57:12 +0300
Date: 2015-06-23T18:57:12+03:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cutduoF4tvU1@mid.individual.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20cb0651-27ba-40c7-9f14-8d7a03390649@googlegroups.com>

On 15-06-23 17:30 , David Botton wrote:
>> I regard the refusal to create a "class type", like Ichbiah wanted it
>
> At this point, we all know it was a mistake

No we don't.

> and the experiences of the last years and revisions have also
> showed areas were things can be simplified and improved.

Sure.

> Perhaps it is time to rethink Ada not just add some more patches
> on and not worry about backward compatibility.

That would certainly be interesting. But any rethink should, IMO, result 
in an Ada-noveau that is even more "Ada-like", and so perhaps even less 
similar to other, more popular languages.

The question is if the rather frail thread of Ada life-force could stand 
being divided into two camps, old Ada and Ada-noveau. Perhaps we can 
hope that Ada-noveau will be much simpler and therefore easier to 
implement, perhaps through more automatic generation of compilation 
phases from formal semantics.

-- 
Niklas Holsti
Tidorum Ltd
niklas holsti tidorum fi
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-23 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-20 18:55 Ada design bug or GNAT bug? Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-06-21  2:42 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-06-21  6:47   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-06-22 17:39     ` Randy Brukardt
2015-06-22 18:16       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-06-23 11:00         ` G.B.
2015-06-23 14:27           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-06-23 11:45         ` G.B.
2015-06-23 14:30           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-02 22:22         ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-03  8:02           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-03 17:33             ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-03 21:34               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-04  3:11                 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-04 12:14                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-05  0:53                     ` Randy Brukardt
2015-06-22 18:27       ` Shark8
2015-06-23 11:51         ` vincent.diemunsch
2015-06-23 19:55           ` Shark8
2015-06-23 13:06         ` vincent.diemunsch
2015-06-23 14:30           ` David Botton
2015-06-23 15:57             ` Niklas Holsti [this message]
2015-06-23 16:01               ` G.B.
2015-06-23 18:05               ` David Botton
2015-06-23 19:38               ` David Botton
2015-06-23 14:38           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-06-23 16:57             ` Vincent
2015-06-23 17:15               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-06-23 19:14                 ` vincent.diemunsch
2015-06-23 19:33                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-06-23 17:42           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-02 22:06           ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-04  1:52             ` Shark8
2015-07-04  3:24               ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-04 11:02                 ` Build-in-place semantics? (Was: Ada design bug or GNAT bug?) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-07-04 12:15                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-05  0:45                     ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-05  7:10                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-05  0:40                   ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-04 14:05                 ` Ada design bug or GNAT bug? Bob Duff
2015-07-04  7:46               ` Simon Wright
2015-07-04 12:00                 ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-05  0:48                   ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-06 12:37             ` Vincent
2015-07-06 20:05               ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-07  8:06               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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