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From: Georg Bauhaus <sb463ba@l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>
Subject: Re: Experiences of XML parser generators for Ada?
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 12:29:51 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2004-12-09T12:29:51+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cp9gfv$jjb$3@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 41b79025$0$1333$636a15ce@news.free.fr

Lionel Draghi <Lionel.nospam.Draghi@ada-france.org> wrote:
: Adrien Plisson a ?crit :
: ...
:> well, Ada has nothing to do with w3c. it is the our job, as Ada 
:> programmers to design and implement a library providing those features 
:> (as Xml/Ada does). it shall never be part of the standard.
: 
: Yes, but
: 
:    type Money is range 1 .. 10;
: 
: becomes
: 
:    name="TN" type="xsd:int"
: 
: in WSDL. The range is lost.
: 
: Maybe some more Ada awareness at w3c could have cause this semantics to 
: be included. (If it is, please let me know)

This problem has been discussed during XML Schema design.
In XML Schema you have some form of ranges in the type libraries.

pro: You don't need to bother to make a good external format,
     just lazily copy your data definitions to an XML stream

medium: If you need to carry type information you can make this
     explicit in a type="..." attribute. (This is then not standards
     based, but it gives more flexibility than a parser that says:
     range error at l.1234, and the just stops.)

con: Freezing the range might not meet any expectation but your
     program's

: I don't want client to continuously cause exceptions in my server, just 
: because there is no way to let them know about the limits.

Use 'Valid and so on. Web services or not, I/O is always a possible
source of surprises. :-)  A secure server cannot rely on external input
anyway, I'd guess.

 
: Once more back to strong typing benefits discussion :-)

The flexible solution is Relax NG.




  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-09 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-04 20:37 Experiences of XML parser generators for Ada? Robert C. Leif
2004-12-04 22:53 ` Adrien Plisson
2004-12-08 23:37   ` Lionel Draghi
2004-12-09 12:29     ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2004-12-09 21:04       ` Lionel Draghi
2004-12-09 21:09     ` Lionel Draghi
2004-12-10 22:09     ` Simon Wright
2004-12-11  0:02       ` Lionel Draghi
2004-12-11  9:03         ` Pascal Obry
     [not found] <20041203110026.6F40B4C408A@lovelace.ada-france.org>
2004-12-03 23:18 ` Robert C. Leif
2004-12-07 19:41   ` Björn Persson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-12-02 21:04 Daniel W
2004-12-02 22:19 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-12-03  8:57 ` Martin Krischik
2004-12-03  9:16   ` Adrien Plisson
2004-12-03 20:42     ` Daniel W
2004-12-03 23:33       ` Adrien Plisson
2004-12-04  8:05         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-12-04 11:40           ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-12-04 13:14             ` Martin Krischik
2004-12-05 16:27               ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-12-05 17:58                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-12-04 13:59             ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-12-05  8:47               ` Martin Krischik
2004-12-06 11:18                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-12-06 18:12                 ` Pascal Obry
2004-12-13 20:34                   ` Florian Weimer
2004-12-05  1:50             ` David Botton
2004-12-04 14:01           ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-12-04 16:27             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-12-06  5:59         ` Daniel W
2004-12-06 14:48         ` Marc A. Criley
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