From: "Dan'l Miller" <optikos@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Why are Ada compilers difficult to write ?
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 19:54:59 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2018-06-22T19:54:59-07:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cfcdaaf4-bd14-4238-8da2-f4cba3326e4a@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <300422673.551411179.249790.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org>
On Friday, June 22, 2018 at 8:49:37 PM UTC-5, Luke A. Guest wrote:
> Dan'l Miller wrote:
>
> >> The ports are in various states of broken-ness as well. None are up to
> >> date, all are partially done. Believe me I’ve looked.
> >
> > I can understand phasing Alpha and VAX and National Semiconductor 32032
> > ISAs out of modern GCC because each is no longer manufactured, but I
> > think that every compiler should support every processor on the planet
> > that is manufactured •today•.
> >
>
> But Z80 was never officially ported to GCC, there have been attempts which
> seemed to die because of the severe lack of registers, iirc. Also Z80
> doesn’t have zero page tricks like the 6502.
Yes, but the Z80 has the 8080's three 16-bit registers BC, DE, and HL by concatenating 8-bit register pairs, but the Z80 has three more shadow 16-bit registers BC', DE', and HL' that can be swapped in and out. (Plus AF and AF' if you like living dangerously with the flag registers.) 6502 needed the page-zero trick because its register-set was so spartan. (Only TI's TMS9900 had an even more spartan register-set in that era.)
> I’ve read that the current LRA (I think it’s called) register scheduler
> would be better for these kinds of CPU’s.
It would appear so. What came before LRA looks like big-ball-of-mud architecture whose concrete set hard & brittle long long ago.
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2018-06-19 21:33 Why are Ada compilers difficult to write ? Vincent
2018-06-19 21:43 ` Paul Rubin
2018-06-19 22:11 ` Lucretia
2018-06-24 17:33 ` Paul Rubin
2018-06-24 17:39 ` Lucretia
2018-06-19 22:01 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2018-06-19 22:18 ` Lucretia
2018-06-21 14:02 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2018-06-21 17:20 ` Lucretia
2018-06-19 22:17 ` Lucretia
2018-06-19 22:34 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-22 13:01 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2018-06-20 8:33 ` gautier_niouzes
2018-06-20 15:54 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-06-20 17:54 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-20 18:18 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-20 18:58 ` Luke A. Guest
2018-06-20 19:37 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-20 19:39 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-20 19:50 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-20 21:26 ` Luke A. Guest
2018-06-27 14:19 ` Olivier Henley
2018-06-27 15:34 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-27 16:26 ` Olivier Henley
2018-06-27 16:50 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-27 17:53 ` Olivier Henley
2018-06-27 18:49 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-28 11:54 ` Mehdi Saada
2018-06-29 3:34 ` Paul Rubin
2018-06-29 16:36 ` G. B.
2018-06-29 17:02 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-21 10:44 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2018-06-21 12:45 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-21 21:08 ` Paul Rubin
2018-06-21 21:42 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-21 22:01 ` Simon Wright
2018-06-21 23:04 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-22 0:20 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-22 3:41 ` Paul Rubin
2018-06-29 21:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-06-22 3:44 ` Paul Rubin
2018-06-22 21:57 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-22 23:15 ` Luke A. Guest
2018-06-23 1:03 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-23 1:49 ` Luke A. Guest
2018-06-23 2:54 ` Dan'l Miller [this message]
2018-06-23 14:48 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-06-23 14:41 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-06-25 5:55 ` Simon Clubley
2018-06-29 21:22 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-06-22 3:31 ` Paul Rubin
2018-06-22 16:44 ` antispam
2018-06-22 13:11 ` Lucretia
2018-06-22 17:10 ` Simon Clubley
2018-06-22 18:00 ` Lucretia
2018-06-25 5:48 ` Simon Clubley
2018-06-25 8:46 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2018-06-25 13:23 ` Lucretia
2018-06-25 17:24 ` Simon Clubley
2018-06-25 14:59 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-25 17:32 ` Simon Clubley
2018-06-29 21:26 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-06-23 5:56 ` J-P. Rosen
2018-06-23 12:44 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-23 16:14 ` Shark8
2018-06-23 18:12 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-23 18:47 ` Shark8
2018-06-23 19:35 ` Simon Wright
2018-06-25 8:51 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2018-06-24 13:41 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2018-06-25 6:04 ` Simon Clubley
2018-06-25 6:31 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2018-06-25 13:27 ` Lucretia
2018-06-25 20:07 ` Dirk Craeynest
2018-06-28 12:08 ` Vincent
2018-06-28 12:21 ` Simon Wright
2018-06-28 12:24 ` Luke A. Guest
2018-06-28 12:41 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-28 14:43 ` J-P. Rosen
2018-06-28 18:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-29 21:35 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-06-29 21:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-06-21 17:42 ` Pascal Obry
2018-06-21 20:18 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-22 5:01 ` J-P. Rosen
2018-06-22 7:16 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-22 11:46 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-22 12:11 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-22 12:35 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-22 15:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-29 21:43 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-06-25 15:33 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-10-01 18:09 ` Tucker Taft
2018-10-01 18:51 ` Lucretia
2018-10-02 12:58 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2018-10-02 14:23 ` Lucretia
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