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From: gautier_niouzes@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: State of the compiler market
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 05:23:54 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2017-06-29T05:23:54-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c92d4a7c-7c70-4699-9cc3-f47f489de6c6@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6529c392-f042-4dfe-8cdb-b785406ad788@googlegroups.com>

> > Probably the best is to make a branch of GNAT, call your new language "Beb" (you'd have then Beb.Text_IO, Beb.Numerics, etc.) and start experimenting with it.
> > I'd have a few wishes like:
> > - rename String to Fixed_String and Unbounded_String to String
> > - make Sin, Cos, Log, etc. automatically visible just like "*" for floating-point types

Lucretia:

> God no!

No to what ?...

> Remove character and string from standard. Introduce code_points and unicode strings, add "net" packages, add "xml" packages. Basically all the text based stuff the modern world uses and every other language gets for free.

Sure. Note that xml is already since a while an "old fad", but this would be clearly needed for legacy stuff. Everybody think to those xml-based zombies that eat resources on enterprise servers...

> Add a "UI" package so that we can do Object Pascal type stuff easily. Ada can easily do UI or graphics, yet all that stuff in planes is handled by C++, why?

At least on the ground there are many UI options, but they are too specific IHMO to be frozen into a standard. But with Beb, you can try it now and see how it works!

> Possibly change the coding styles a bit to try to appeal to the C crowd.
> 
> Remove access types in functions, allow in out in them.
> 
> Allow custom types to have 'Image and other similar attributes.
> 
> That's just a start, but this would really need to be a new language in the same vein as Ada, not a fork.

It could be a new language reusing the experience and testing accumulated with Ada.
G.


  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-29 12:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-23  0:26 State of the compiler market john
2017-02-23  3:17 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-02-23  5:16 ` Per Sandberg
2017-02-23  6:01 ` gautier_niouzes
2017-02-23  9:01   ` joakimds
2017-02-23 18:03 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-02-24  9:23   ` Per Sandberg
2017-02-24  9:32     ` Paul Rubin
2017-02-23 21:22 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-02-24 16:36 ` john
2017-02-25 10:48 ` Ingo M.
2017-02-25 11:07   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-02-25 14:25     ` Ingo M.
2017-02-25 17:30       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-02-25 11:29   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-02-25 13:46     ` G.B.
2017-02-25 14:46     ` Ingo M.
2017-02-25 15:21       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-02-25 15:49         ` Ingo M.
2017-02-25 16:11           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-02-25 19:03       ` G.B.
2017-02-26  0:11         ` Luke A. Guest
2017-02-26  8:44           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-02-26  0:20 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-02-26  2:26   ` Randy Brukardt
2017-02-26  9:14     ` Paul Rubin
2017-02-26 17:35       ` antispam
2017-02-26 22:32         ` Paul Rubin
2017-02-27  2:38           ` antispam
2017-02-27  2:54             ` Paul Rubin
2017-02-27  3:54               ` antispam
2017-02-28 20:51       ` Randy Brukardt
2017-02-28 21:29         ` Luke A. Guest
2017-03-01  8:43           ` reinkor
2017-03-01 14:20             ` Adacore and licensing (again), was: " Simon Clubley
2017-03-01 17:02               ` reinert
2017-03-01 18:34                 ` Simon Clubley
2017-03-05 19:38                   ` Robert Eachus
2017-03-05 23:17                     ` Luke A. Guest
2017-03-06  1:12                       ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-03-06  2:56                       ` Robert Eachus
2017-03-07 20:47                     ` Simon Clubley
2017-03-08  0:23                       ` Lucretia
2017-03-08 10:26                         ` Simon Wright
2017-03-01 14:28             ` volkert
2017-03-01 15:01               ` J-P. Rosen
2017-03-01 16:05               ` G.B.
2017-03-06 23:15               ` john
2017-03-07 16:42                 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-06-27  8:29             ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2017-06-28 10:40               ` Lucretia
2017-06-28 11:44                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-06-28 13:54                   ` Luke A. Guest
2017-06-28 14:16                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-06-29  1:26                 ` Shark8
2017-06-29  5:46                   ` gautier_niouzes
2017-06-29 11:36                     ` Lucretia
2017-06-29 12:23                       ` gautier_niouzes [this message]
2017-06-29 12:50                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-06-29 14:47                         ` Lucretia
2017-06-29 17:23                           ` G.B.
2017-06-29 18:27                             ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2017-06-29 19:04                               ` Lucretia
2017-06-29 19:01                             ` Lucretia
2017-06-30  5:27                               ` J-P. Rosen
2017-06-30  7:18                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-06-30  7:34                                   ` J-P. Rosen
2017-06-30  8:10                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-06-30 10:10                                       ` J-P. Rosen
2017-06-30 10:53                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-06-30  7:51                                   ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2017-06-30  8:20                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-06-30 11:11                                 ` Lucretia
2017-06-30 11:23                                   ` Lucretia
2017-06-29 12:57                       ` Petter Fryklund
2017-06-30 13:57                       ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2017-06-30 14:19                         ` Lucretia
2017-07-01  8:06                           ` darkestkhan
2017-07-01  9:17                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-02-26 10:14     ` Dirk Craeynest
2017-02-27  9:56       ` Ivan Levashev
2017-06-27  8:00 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
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