From: "Xenos" <dont.spam.me@spamhate.com>
Subject: Re: "Must instantiate controlled types at library level." Why?
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:50:03 -0400
Date: 2004-05-14T09:50:03-04:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c82iqd$7bl5@cui1.lmms.lmco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1676457.GMYvKY1ieA@linux1.krischik.com
"Martin Krischik" <krischik@users.sourceforge.net> wrote in message
news:1676457.GMYvKY1ieA@linux1.krischik.com...
> Freejack wrote:
> Simple Mantra: 'Class behaves like String.
>
> If you compare with C/C++: You always have to uses char* pointers since
> C/C++ has no equivalent for String.
Wrong. C++ has a string class in its standard library. Its a lot more
versitile than Ada's String type.
>
> In C an array is either definite "int X[10]" or you use pointer. "int X[]"
> is only another syntax for "char*" since there is no 'First and 'Last in
> C/C++. Ada however has indefinite types - so pointers arn't neede here.
>
Wrong. In certain situations, an array will "degrade" to a pointer to its
element type. As a function parameter int X[] will degrade to a constant
pointer to an integer, or int * const. It is NEVER eqvilent to char*. You
must be thinking of Classic C (before the standard) were a char* was used at
the generic pointer type before void* was introduced. A generic pointer
will accept any type of (non-function) pointer, but is still not equivilent
to it.
It is only during degradation that an array end is unknown to the compiler.
C++ has the vector (et. al.) where .begin() and .end() are equivalent to
'First and 'Last.
> Also you use pointers because C/C++ has no "out" or "in out". Ada however
> decides itself if call by value or call by reference is needed. So no
> pointers needed here as well.
Wrong. C++ has reference types are equivalent to "in out." Constant
reference types may be used for "in."
If you don't understand a language, you don't have any grounds to lambaste
it.
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Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-11 23:04 "Must instantiate controlled types at library level." Why? Peter C. Chapin
2004-05-12 1:03 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-05-12 10:47 ` Peter C. Chapin
2004-05-12 11:25 ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-12 14:41 ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-13 2:20 ` Peter C. Chapin
2004-05-12 11:55 ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-13 2:59 ` Peter C. Chapin
2004-05-13 7:10 ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-13 10:36 ` Peter C. Chapin
2004-05-13 11:18 ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-13 22:27 ` Peter C. Chapin
2004-05-13 22:54 ` Freejack
2004-05-14 7:13 ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-14 13:50 ` Xenos [this message]
2004-05-14 17:27 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-14 17:58 ` Xenos
2004-05-14 18:49 ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-14 19:40 ` Xenos
2004-05-14 22:47 ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-15 8:34 ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-16 2:55 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-16 13:48 ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-17 2:30 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-17 5:39 ` Martin Dowie
2004-05-17 7:48 ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-17 15:01 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-17 16:31 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-17 17:40 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-17 19:17 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-17 6:24 ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-17 19:48 ` James Kanze
2004-05-18 6:27 ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-17 12:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-17 13:46 ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-17 15:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-17 16:02 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-05-18 7:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-19 1:20 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-05-19 9:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-19 12:38 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-19 13:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-19 13:09 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-19 13:44 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-19 14:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-19 14:15 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-21 11:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-21 20:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
[not found] ` <c8mkor$rlq$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>
2004-05-23 1:28 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-23 8:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-24 11:38 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-24 13:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-24 14:40 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-25 8:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-25 15:47 ` Georg Bauhaus
[not found] ` <URJ8Eg0vzF@VB1162.spb.edu>
2004-05-17 16:50 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-05-18 8:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-15 17:20 ` Pascal Obry
2004-05-13 19:33 ` Randy Brukardt
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