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From: "Xenos" <dont.spam.me@spamhate.com>
Subject: Re: "Must instantiate controlled types at library level." Why?
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:50:03 -0400
Date: 2004-05-14T09:50:03-04:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c82iqd$7bl5@cui1.lmms.lmco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1676457.GMYvKY1ieA@linux1.krischik.com


"Martin Krischik" <krischik@users.sourceforge.net> wrote in message
news:1676457.GMYvKY1ieA@linux1.krischik.com...
> Freejack wrote:
> Simple Mantra: 'Class behaves like String.
>
> If you compare with C/C++: You always have to uses char* pointers since
> C/C++ has no equivalent for String.

Wrong.  C++ has a string class in its standard library.  Its a lot more
versitile than Ada's String type.
>
> In C an array is either definite "int X[10]" or you use pointer. "int X[]"
> is only another syntax for "char*" since there is no 'First and 'Last in
> C/C++. Ada however has indefinite types - so pointers arn't neede here.
>
Wrong.  In certain situations, an array will "degrade" to a pointer to its
element type.  As a function parameter int X[] will degrade to a constant
pointer to an integer, or int * const.  It is NEVER eqvilent to char*.  You
must be thinking of Classic C (before the standard) were a char* was used at
the generic pointer type before void* was introduced.  A generic pointer
will accept any type of (non-function) pointer, but is still not equivilent
to it.
It is only during degradation that an array end is unknown to the compiler.
C++ has the vector (et. al.) where .begin() and .end() are equivalent to
'First and 'Last.

> Also you use pointers because C/C++ has no "out" or "in out". Ada however
> decides itself if call by value or call by reference is needed. So no
> pointers needed here as well.
Wrong.  C++ has reference types are equivalent to "in out."  Constant
reference types may be used for "in."

If you don't understand a language, you don't have any grounds to lambaste
it.






  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-14 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-11 23:04 "Must instantiate controlled types at library level." Why? Peter C. Chapin
2004-05-12  1:03 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-05-12 10:47   ` Peter C. Chapin
2004-05-12 11:25     ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-12 14:41       ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-13  2:20       ` Peter C. Chapin
2004-05-12 11:55     ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-13  2:59       ` Peter C. Chapin
2004-05-13  7:10         ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-13 10:36           ` Peter C. Chapin
2004-05-13 11:18             ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-13 22:27               ` Peter C. Chapin
2004-05-13 22:54               ` Freejack
2004-05-14  7:13                 ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-14 13:50                   ` Xenos [this message]
2004-05-14 17:27                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-14 17:58                       ` Xenos
2004-05-14 18:49                     ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-14 19:40                       ` Xenos
2004-05-14 22:47                         ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-15  8:34                           ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-16  2:55                           ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-16 13:48                             ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-17  2:30                               ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-17  5:39                                 ` Martin Dowie
2004-05-17  7:48                                   ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-05-17 15:01                                     ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-17 16:31                                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-17 17:40                                         ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-17 19:17                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-17  6:24                                 ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-17 19:48                                   ` James Kanze
2004-05-18  6:27                                     ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-17 12:33                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-17 13:46                                   ` Martin Krischik
2004-05-17 15:03                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-17 16:02                                   ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-05-18  7:48                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-19  1:20                                       ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-05-19  9:59                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-19 12:38                                           ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-19 13:28                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-19 13:09                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-19 13:44                                             ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-19 14:17                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-19 14:15                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-21 11:39                                               ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-21 20:33                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
     [not found]                                                   ` <c8mkor$rlq$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>
2004-05-23  1:28                                                     ` Hyman Rosen
2004-05-23  8:55                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-24 11:38                                                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-24 13:57                                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-24 14:40                                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-05-25  8:32                                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-25 15:47                                                               ` Georg Bauhaus
     [not found]                                   ` <URJ8Eg0vzF@VB1162.spb.edu>
2004-05-17 16:50                                     ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-05-18  8:27                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-05-15 17:20                     ` Pascal Obry
2004-05-13 19:33             ` Randy Brukardt
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