From: Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid>
Subject: Re: STM32F4 Discovery, communication and libraries
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 21:39:52 +0300
Date: 2014-09-01T21:39:52+03:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c6jsrjF6urdU1@mid.individual.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <wq3x8ean0f5z$.em02okqv4iv8$.dlg@40tude.net>
On 14-09-01 19:42 , Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 21:41:15 +0300, Niklas Holsti wrote:
>
>> On 14-08-31 10:02 , Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>
>>> No_Local_Protected_Objects means all requests are pre-allocated at the
>>> library level and distributed by another protected object? With busy
>>> waiting for a free request?
>>
>> No, the _request_ in my example code is not a protected object; it is an
>> ordinary record type. It _refers_ to a protected object which is a kind
>> of "I/O wait object".
>
> That was clear.
Good, but in that case your comment, quoted above, was rather
misleading, because it clerly implies that requests are affected by
No_Local_Protected_Object.
>> For publish/subscribe, I would do something like this (not tested):
> [...]
>
> You don't need anything this complex so long you monitor a single channel.
> The challenge is to subscribe to several channels and also to avoid
> unnecessary copying of I/O data.
So, explain how you do it with the full Ada tasking profile, and I'll
see if I can implement the same thing under Ravenscar rules. Or show a
simpler solution for one channel under Ravenscar rules, that would also
be interesting.
I/O data copying can be avoided by passing references and using
reference counting. I don't see any particular drawback of Ravenscar
rules here -- one either copies data from one task to another, or refers
to shared data, which then needs some sort of cross-task life-time
management.
> Theoretically you could create channels
> that are combinations of queues of events to monitor register them by the
> queues. I don't know how much overhead it will be (I was trying to reduce
> number of protected actions per event), but it looks ugly and overly
> complicated.
General rule: a simpler, less powerful language (Ravenscar) leads to
more complex application programs, when the application functionality is
kept constant. You pays your money and you takes your choice.
--
Niklas Holsti
Tidorum Ltd
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2014-08-26 22:38 STM32F4 Discovery, communication and libraries roy.emmerich
2014-08-27 2:40 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-08-27 12:35 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-08-27 7:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-27 13:35 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-08-27 16:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-27 13:08 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-08-27 15:44 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-08-28 1:37 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-08-27 16:03 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-08-28 1:48 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-08-28 10:12 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-08-28 13:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-28 16:28 ` Mike Silva
2014-08-28 17:03 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-08-28 20:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-28 20:34 ` embeddedrelatedmike
2014-08-29 7:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-29 15:59 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-29 16:59 ` [OT] Ravenscar (the place, not profile), was: " Simon Clubley
2014-08-29 17:18 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-29 17:31 ` Simon Clubley
2014-08-30 14:55 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-08-29 17:59 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-08-29 23:30 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-08-30 11:25 ` Simon Clubley
2014-08-31 11:09 ` Phil Thornley
2014-08-30 12:36 ` Peter Chapin
2014-08-31 18:37 ` Dirk Craeynest
2014-08-31 19:38 ` Simon Clubley
2014-08-29 17:24 ` Mike Silva
2014-08-29 23:35 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-08-29 13:06 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-08-29 16:52 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-31 0:49 ` Shark8
2014-08-28 21:17 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-29 0:07 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-08-29 17:58 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-29 7:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-29 16:31 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-29 16:47 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-08-29 19:41 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-30 22:00 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-08-31 10:08 ` Simon Wright
2014-09-01 20:15 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-09-01 21:11 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-08-31 4:54 ` gvdschoot
2014-09-09 19:17 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-09-09 20:20 ` Mike Silva
[not found] ` <a54dcc42-d4e2-4d53-b381-2bb7a0eef1ee@googlegroups.com>
2014-09-10 1:41 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-09-10 8:52 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-09-10 13:05 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-09-10 17:16 ` Simon Wright
[not found] ` <a2e59fce-751c-46a0-90f3-80430c627732@googlegroups.com>
2014-09-10 7:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-09-10 9:35 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-09-10 14:11 ` Stephen Leake
2014-09-10 17:46 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-09-10 18:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-09-11 9:53 ` Stephen Leake
2014-09-11 17:19 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-09-10 20:58 ` Brian Drummond
2014-09-10 23:40 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-08-29 16:58 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-31 7:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-31 15:44 ` Brad Moore
2014-08-31 16:15 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-09-01 16:15 ` Brad Moore
2014-09-01 16:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-31 18:41 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-09-01 16:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-09-01 17:21 ` G.B.
2014-09-02 8:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-09-02 13:04 ` G.B.
2014-09-02 14:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-09-02 16:44 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-09-02 19:02 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-09-02 23:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-09-03 1:40 ` gdotone
2014-09-04 9:26 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-09-04 17:58 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-09-05 11:47 ` Simon Clubley
2014-09-09 19:04 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-09-01 18:39 ` Niklas Holsti [this message]
2014-09-02 8:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-28 13:10 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-08-29 2:52 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-09-20 20:50 ` David Thompson
2014-08-27 16:17 ` Mike Silva
2014-08-27 16:36 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-08-27 16:58 ` Simon Clubley
2014-08-29 19:36 ` johnscpg
2014-08-30 15:06 ` Stephen Leake
2014-09-02 21:40 ` rrr.eee.27
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