From: Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid>
Subject: Re: STM32F4 Discovery, communication and libraries
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 21:41:15 +0300
Date: 2014-08-31T21:41:15+03:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c6h8ieFfss4U1@mid.individual.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1xrcksk78afho$.xz6vgakq9o4t.dlg@40tude.net>
On 14-08-31 10:02 , Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 19:31:00 +0300, Niklas Holsti wrote:
>
>> For example (from memory, not tested):
>
> [...]
>
>> Did that answer your question?
>
> Sort of.
Good.
> No_Local_Protected_Objects means all requests are pre-allocated at the
> library level and distributed by another protected object? With busy
> waiting for a free request?
No, the _request_ in my example code is not a protected object; it is an
ordinary record type. It _refers_ to a protected object which is a kind
of "I/O wait object".
The PO "wait object" is of course statically allocated (by Ravenscar
rules). Any task that will issue I/O requests must allocate such a PO
for itself. (If the task uses several different I/O servers, which have
different "wait object" types, the task has to allocate one PO for each
such I/O server it will use.)
(Oh well, of course one could also statically allocate a shared pool of
such POs and use some kind of protocol by which tasks can reserve a PO
from the pool when they need one, but why make things difficult?)
The example code I gave assumed that each client issues at most one
request at a time, to one server, and then waits for the request to be
completed. This requires one request object (which can be locally
allocated, or can even have value-semantics and be constructed in the
I/O call as in my example code), and one PO, which can be reused for any
number of requests.
By adding request identifiers and other data-structure complexities one
can implement multiple concurrent requests, waiting for any one of
multiple requests to complete ("select"), etc.
> When I evaluated Ravenscar for our middleware (long ago), the concern was
> publisher/subscriber services. I/O queue viewed as one of them. I didn't
> consider a solution like yours because the requirement was that more than
> one task could await for same I/O event. You reserve the event for single
> task and other publisher/subscriber services (e.g. the data logger, network
> data server, health monitor etc) may not use it because of
> Max_Protected_Entries = 1. The event cannot propagate because of
> No_Requeue_Statements. Tasks could flood the queue with their
> requests/events but they cannot do that for more than one queue.
You list a lot of things there... I don't really see how they are
related to each other, or if they are separate problems.
If for some reason you want to wake up two tasks when one I/O finishes,
the sample principle can be used: record two references, to two
protected objects - one per task - in the I/O request, and signal both
of them when the I/O completes.
For publish/subscribe, I would do something like this (not tested):
protected type Mailbox_T
--
-- Each subscriber has an object of this type.
--
is
procedure Signal (Event : in Event_Data_T);
-- Called by the Publisher (through Publication_Channel, see
-- below) to broadcast the Event to each subscriber.
procedure Get_Last (
Signalled : out Boolean;
Event : out Event_Data_T);
-- Called by the Subscriber to poll (ask) if a new
-- Event has been Signalled (i.e. non-blocking).
entry Await (Event : out Event_Data_T);
-- Called by the Subscriber when it wants to wait for
-- the next broadcast Event.
...
end Mailbox_T;
type Mailbox_Ref is access all Mailbox_T;
-- What the Publisher knows about a Subscriber.
protected Publication_Channel is
procedure Subscribe (
Mailbox : in Mailbox_Ref;
Success : out Boolean);
-- Called by a new Subcriber.
-- Enters the Mailbox (reference) in the subscriber list, or
-- fails if the list is full (Success returned as False).
procedure Publish (Event : in Event_Data_T);
-- Called by the Publisher to broadcast a new Event
-- to all subscribers in the list, by calling the Signal
-- operation of the Mailbox for each subscriber.
private
Subscribers : array (1 .. 100) of Mailbox_Ref;
Num_Subscribers : Natural := 0;
-- The active subscriptions are indexed 1 .. Num_Subscribers.
end Publication_Channel;
Depending on the timing and on whether it is important not to lose any
events, Mailbox_T may need an internal Event queue, or there may be a
global queue of past events to which the queue in Mailbox_T holds
references, and other such data structure refinements, all orthogonal to
Ravenscar constraints.
> It might do what you wanted, but it does not look scalable for the OP's
> purpose.
So far, I don't see anything in the OP's requirements that could not be
implemented with Ravenscar tasking.
--
Niklas Holsti
Tidorum Ltd
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2014-08-26 22:38 STM32F4 Discovery, communication and libraries roy.emmerich
2014-08-27 2:40 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-08-27 12:35 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-08-27 7:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-27 13:35 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-08-27 16:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-27 13:08 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-08-27 15:44 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-08-28 1:37 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-08-27 16:03 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-08-28 1:48 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-08-28 10:12 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-08-28 13:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-28 16:28 ` Mike Silva
2014-08-28 17:03 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-08-28 20:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-28 20:34 ` embeddedrelatedmike
2014-08-29 7:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-29 15:59 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-29 16:59 ` [OT] Ravenscar (the place, not profile), was: " Simon Clubley
2014-08-29 17:18 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-29 17:31 ` Simon Clubley
2014-08-30 14:55 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-08-29 17:59 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-08-29 23:30 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-08-30 11:25 ` Simon Clubley
2014-08-31 11:09 ` Phil Thornley
2014-08-30 12:36 ` Peter Chapin
2014-08-31 18:37 ` Dirk Craeynest
2014-08-31 19:38 ` Simon Clubley
2014-08-29 17:24 ` Mike Silva
2014-08-29 23:35 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-08-29 13:06 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-08-29 16:52 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-31 0:49 ` Shark8
2014-08-28 21:17 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-29 0:07 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-08-29 17:58 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-29 7:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-29 16:31 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-29 16:47 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-08-29 19:41 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-30 22:00 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-08-31 10:08 ` Simon Wright
2014-09-01 20:15 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-09-01 21:11 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-08-31 4:54 ` gvdschoot
2014-09-09 19:17 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-09-09 20:20 ` Mike Silva
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2014-09-10 1:41 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-09-10 8:52 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-09-10 13:05 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-09-10 17:16 ` Simon Wright
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2014-09-10 7:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-09-10 9:35 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-09-10 14:11 ` Stephen Leake
2014-09-10 17:46 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-09-10 18:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-09-11 9:53 ` Stephen Leake
2014-09-11 17:19 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-09-10 20:58 ` Brian Drummond
2014-09-10 23:40 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-08-29 16:58 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-31 7:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-31 15:44 ` Brad Moore
2014-08-31 16:15 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-09-01 16:15 ` Brad Moore
2014-09-01 16:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-31 18:41 ` Niklas Holsti [this message]
2014-09-01 16:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-09-01 17:21 ` G.B.
2014-09-02 8:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-09-02 13:04 ` G.B.
2014-09-02 14:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-09-02 16:44 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-09-02 19:02 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-09-02 23:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-09-03 1:40 ` gdotone
2014-09-04 9:26 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-09-04 17:58 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-09-05 11:47 ` Simon Clubley
2014-09-09 19:04 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-09-01 18:39 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-09-02 8:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-28 13:10 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-08-29 2:52 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-09-20 20:50 ` David Thompson
2014-08-27 16:17 ` Mike Silva
2014-08-27 16:36 ` Roy Emmerich
2014-08-27 16:58 ` Simon Clubley
2014-08-29 19:36 ` johnscpg
2014-08-30 15:06 ` Stephen Leake
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