* Re: Listing currently maintained libraries for Ada
2012-06-15 3:51 Listing currently maintained libraries for Ada i3text
@ 2012-06-15 5:37 ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-06-15 20:04 ` i3text
2012-06-17 15:33 ` Marco
2012-06-15 7:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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From: Jeffrey Carter @ 2012-06-15 5:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 06/14/2012 08:51 PM, i3text@gmail.com wrote:
> When searching for Ada libraries, it is discouraging to find mostly dead
> links or links to dead projects. So I decided to make a list of all the
> libraries I could find that seem to be still active projects. To be listed, a
> library must have seen some maintenance activity within the last year. I
> generally ingored things that are already part of the GNAT distribution.
>
> At first, I wanted to list just libraries of production quality, but I
> figured I couldn't reliably evaluate that. So, a lot of the things here are
> alpha quality. Of course, there are libraries that haven't seen any work for
> several years but still get downloaded a lot. But I wanted a listing of
> libraries where I could reasonably expect help and bug-fixes.
>
> Do you know any I've missed?
Your criteria are somewhat strange. A mature library will be useful but see no
"maintenance activity" because there is no longer anything to change. For
example, the PragmAda Reusable Components are very much alive and supported, but
have not been changed recently:
http://pragmada.x10hosting.com/
--
Jeff Carter
"English bed-wetting types."
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2012-06-15 5:37 ` Jeffrey Carter
@ 2012-06-15 20:04 ` i3text
2012-06-15 20:47 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-15 21:41 ` Robert A Duff
2012-06-17 15:33 ` Marco
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From: i3text @ 2012-06-15 20:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:37:59 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Carter wrote:
> A mature library will be useful but see no
> "maintenance activity" because there is no longer anything to change.
This is actually the first time I've seen someone take this position, so I've been thinking about when it might be true.
One the one hand, I agree that this list is unsatisfactory as a collection of all libraries that one might want to use. An old but well crafted library could still be valuable, especially if it covers something important and there is no alternative.
However, my "activity" criterion was chosen for two reasons. First, I take it as axiomatic that no software achieves perfection. If it is being used, people will report bugs and rough edges, prompting the developer to tweak things, even if it is just the documentation. Second, a large portion of libraries interact with other things that continue to evolve, so compatibility at one point doesn't imply compatibility forever.
I have not done embedded systems work, but I've heard that it is easier than doing desktop applications since you are developing for a restricted, stable environment. In the field of embedded systems, is it a common attitude that software *can* be developed to a point where it no longer needs any attention? I'm wondering how this might affect how Ada is received by application developers.
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* Re: Listing currently maintained libraries for Ada
2012-06-15 20:04 ` i3text
@ 2012-06-15 20:47 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-15 21:41 ` Robert A Duff
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From: Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) @ 2012-06-15 20:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
Le Fri, 15 Jun 2012 22:04:02 +0200, <i3text@gmail.com> a écrit:
> On Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:37:59 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Carter wrote:
>> A mature library will be useful but see no
>> "maintenance activity" because there is no longer anything to change.
>
> This is actually the first time I've seen someone take this position
He is not the only one. I didn't say anything, but your words left me with
the same feeling.
Quote of the day, too: “newer does not imply better”.
--
“Syntactic sugar causes cancer of the semi-colons.” [1]
“Structured Programming supports the law of the excluded muddle.” [1]
[1]: Epigrams on Programming — Alan J. — P. Yale University
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* Re: Listing currently maintained libraries for Ada
2012-06-15 20:04 ` i3text
2012-06-15 20:47 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
@ 2012-06-15 21:41 ` Robert A Duff
2012-06-15 22:58 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-06-16 2:19 ` BrianG
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From: Robert A Duff @ 2012-06-15 21:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
i3text@gmail.com writes:
> On Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:37:59 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Carter wrote:
>> A mature library will be useful but see no
>> "maintenance activity" because there is no longer anything to change.
>
> This is actually the first time I've seen someone take this position,
> so I've been thinking about when it might be true.
That's kind of a sad commentary on the state of the art, isn't it?
If you're not constantly fixing bugs (and adding new ones?) people
consider your project "dead".
Nonetheless, your list is useful.
> However, my "activity" criterion was chosen for two reasons. First, I
> take it as axiomatic that no software achieves perfection.
Didn't Donald Knuth announce at some point that TeX was "done" or
"bug free" or some such? And therefore gave it a version number
of "exactly pi"?
Anyway, you're talking about software you might download from the net.
If you buy a Boeing 7N7, you don't download the flight control software
from the net. ;-)
- Bob
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* Re: Listing currently maintained libraries for Ada
2012-06-15 21:41 ` Robert A Duff
@ 2012-06-15 22:58 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-06-16 6:11 ` J-P. Rosen
2012-06-16 2:19 ` BrianG
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From: Nasser M. Abbasi @ 2012-06-15 22:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 6/15/2012 4:41 PM, Robert A Duff wrote:
>
> Didn't Donald Knuth announce at some point that TeX was "done" or
> "bug free" or some such? And therefore gave it a version number
> of "exactly pi"?
>
True. But even though Tex is still is frozen, Latex is
still being added to all the time. Tex is the core
engine, but layers and layers of Latex is build on
top of it. There was Latex2, now Latex3, and millions
of lines of code in CTAN is being added all the time
as packages on top of Tex.
I do not believe that a software library can ever not go
continuous maintenance. There is always more testing
to be done, more features to add, make the software
more robust, test against new changes outside of
the control of the library.
Software that does not change, means it is not used
much. Software that is used by many, means there
is always new functionality needed, enhancement requests,
bug fixes, test cases added, etc...
Software for me is a living thing. Stop taking care of
it, stop feeding it, stop growing it, it will die soon.
If it does not die on its own, something better will come
along, with better features, and replace it.
--Nasser
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* Re: Listing currently maintained libraries for Ada
2012-06-15 22:58 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
@ 2012-06-16 6:11 ` J-P. Rosen
2012-06-16 6:47 ` Jeffrey Carter
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From: J-P. Rosen @ 2012-06-16 6:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
Le 16/06/2012 00:58, Nasser M. Abbasi a �crit :
> I do not believe that a software library can ever not go
> continuous maintenance. There is always more testing
> to be done, more features to add, make the software
> more robust, test against new changes outside of
> the control of the library.
Counter-example: my "debug" package.
I didn't change anything for years. It does its job, full stop.
--
J-P. Rosen
Adalog
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Tel: +33 1 45 29 21 52, Fax: +33 1 45 29 25 00
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* Re: Listing currently maintained libraries for Ada
2012-06-16 6:11 ` J-P. Rosen
@ 2012-06-16 6:47 ` Jeffrey Carter
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From: Jeffrey Carter @ 2012-06-16 6:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 06/15/2012 11:11 PM, J-P. Rosen wrote:
> Counter-example: my "debug" package.
>
> I didn't change anything for years. It does its job, full stop.
Right. I know of projects using the PragmARCs. There are probably others I don't
know of. But there hasn't been an error report or enhancement request for years.
--
Jeff Carter
"Sons of a silly person."
Monty Python & the Holy Grail
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* Re: Listing currently maintained libraries for Ada
2012-06-15 21:41 ` Robert A Duff
2012-06-15 22:58 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
@ 2012-06-16 2:19 ` BrianG
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From: BrianG @ 2012-06-16 2:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 06/15/2012 05:41 PM, Robert A Duff wrote:
> i3text@gmail.com writes:
>
>> On Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:37:59 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Carter wrote:
>>> A mature library will be useful but see no
>>> "maintenance activity" because there is no longer anything to change.
>>
>> This is actually the first time I've seen someone take this position,
>> so I've been thinking about when it might be true.
>
> That's kind of a sad commentary on the state of the art, isn't it?
> If you're not constantly fixing bugs (and adding new ones?) people
> consider your project "dead".
>
Indirectly related quote:
"If there are no bugs in your current software your customer might not
feel inclined to pay for the new version. "
(from, of all places, comp.software-eng - presented as an actual
position of the poster)
--
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* Re: Listing currently maintained libraries for Ada
2012-06-15 5:37 ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-06-15 20:04 ` i3text
@ 2012-06-17 15:33 ` Marco
2012-06-17 19:25 ` Tero Koskinen
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From: Marco @ 2012-06-17 15:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:37:59 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Carter wrote:
> On 06/14/2012 08:51 PM, i3text@gmail.com wrote:
> > When searching for Ada libraries, it is discouraging to find mostly dead
> > links or links to dead projects. So I decided to make a list of all the
> > libraries I could find that seem to be still active projects. To be listed, a
> > library must have seen some maintenance activity within the last year. I
> > generally ingored things that are already part of the GNAT distribution.
> >
> > At first, I wanted to list just libraries of production quality, but I
> > figured I couldn't reliably evaluate that. So, a lot of the things here are
> > alpha quality. Of course, there are libraries that haven't seen any work for
> > several years but still get downloaded a lot. But I wanted a listing of
> > libraries where I could reasonably expect help and bug-fixes.
> >
> > Do you know any I've missed?
>
> Your criteria are somewhat strange. A mature library will be useful but see no
> "maintenance activity" because there is no longer anything to change.
I agree that all usable libraries should be listed.
Can this list be transferred to wikipedia or other well maintained website?
Maybe Library Authors can just add a note on the their website once a year or so to show that is a still a viable library.
I also appreciate the OPs effort.
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* Re: Listing currently maintained libraries for Ada
2012-06-17 15:33 ` Marco
@ 2012-06-17 19:25 ` Tero Koskinen
2012-06-18 0:56 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
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From: Tero Koskinen @ 2012-06-17 19:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:33:11 -0700 (PDT)
Marco <prenom_nomus@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:37:59 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Carter wrote:
> > On 06/14/2012 08:51 PM, i3text@gmail.com wrote:
> > > When searching for Ada libraries, it is discouraging to find mostly dead
> > > links or links to dead projects. So I decided to make a list of all the
> > > libraries I could find that seem to be still active projects. To be listed, a
> > > library must have seen some maintenance activity within the last year. I
> > > generally ingored things that are already part of the GNAT distribution.
> > >
> > > At first, I wanted to list just libraries of production quality, but I
> > > figured I couldn't reliably evaluate that. So, a lot of the things here are
> > > alpha quality. Of course, there are libraries that haven't seen any work for
> > > several years but still get downloaded a lot. But I wanted a listing of
> > > libraries where I could reasonably expect help and bug-fixes.
> > >
> > > Do you know any I've missed?
> >
> > Your criteria are somewhat strange. A mature library will be useful but see no
> > "maintenance activity" because there is no longer anything to change.
>
> I agree that all usable libraries should be listed.
> Can this list be transferred to wikipedia or other well maintained website?
> Maybe Library Authors can just add a note on the their website once a year or so to show that is a still a viable library.
You can add Ada libraries and applications to AdaCommons wiki, for
example.
The address is http://commons.ada.cx/Main_Page
Also, if you find dead links, you can fix them by yourself, since it is
a wiki. :)
>
> I also appreciate the OPs effort.
--
Tero Koskinen - http://iki.fi/tero.koskinen/
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2012-06-17 19:25 ` Tero Koskinen
@ 2012-06-18 0:56 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-18 17:49 ` Manuel Gomez
2012-06-29 21:59 ` Vinzent Hoefler
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From: Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) @ 2012-06-18 0:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
Le Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:25:15 +0200, Tero Koskinen <tero.koskinen@iki.fi> a
écrit:
> You can add Ada libraries and applications to AdaCommons wiki, for
> example.
>
> The address is http://commons.ada.cx/Main_Page
>
> Also, if you find dead links, you can fix them by yourself, since it is
> a wiki. :)
I registered and added a page for Canta (wow, the captcha questions are
sometimes weird… “what was Ada, the language, first name?”).
--
“Syntactic sugar causes cancer of the semi-colons.” [1]
“Structured Programming supports the law of the excluded muddle.” [1]
[1]: Epigrams on Programming — Alan J. — P. Yale University
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* Re: Listing currently maintained libraries for Ada
2012-06-17 19:25 ` Tero Koskinen
2012-06-18 0:56 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
@ 2012-06-18 17:49 ` Manuel Gomez
2012-06-19 13:59 ` Marco
2012-06-22 18:34 ` Manuel Gomez
2012-06-29 21:59 ` Vinzent Hoefler
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From: Manuel Gomez @ 2012-06-18 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
El 17/06/12 21:25, Tero Koskinen escribi�:
> You can add Ada libraries and applications to AdaCommons wiki, for
> example.
>
> The address is http://commons.ada.cx/Main_Page
>
> Also, if you find dead links, you can fix them by yourself, since it is
> a wiki. :)
And since it is based on Mediawiki we can use the Pywikipediabot [1] for
finding dead links in the articles. I've used it for checking all the
site and I've pasted the list of pages with dead links in the TODO page
[2]. If anyone knows where has the information been moved, please edit
the corresponding page for fixing it.
I intend to pass the bot periodically on Ada Commons so we can maintain
it clean of dead links.
Regards,
Manuel
[1]
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikipediabot/weblinkchecker.py
[2]
http://commons.ada.cx/TODO
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* Re: Listing currently maintained libraries for Ada
2012-06-18 17:49 ` Manuel Gomez
@ 2012-06-19 13:59 ` Marco
2012-06-22 18:34 ` Manuel Gomez
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From: Marco @ 2012-06-19 13:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Monday, June 18, 2012 10:49:56 AM UTC-7, Manuel Gomez wrote:
> El 17/06/12 21:25, Tero Koskinen escribi�:
> > You can add Ada libraries and applications to AdaCommons wiki, for
> > example.
> >
> > The address is http://commons.ada.cx/Main_Page
> >
> > Also, if you find dead links, you can fix them by yourself, since it is
> > a wiki. :)
>
> And since it is based on Mediawiki we can use the Pywikipediabot [1] for
> finding dead links in the articles. I've used it for checking all the
> site and I've pasted the list of pages with dead links in the TODO page
> [2]. If anyone knows where has the information been moved, please edit
> the corresponding page for fixing it.
>
> I intend to pass the bot periodically on Ada Commons so we can maintain
> it clean of dead links.
>
> Regards,
> Manuel
>
> [1]
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikipediabot/weblinkchecker.py
> [2]
> http://commons.ada.cx/TODO
here is a test for your tool from Ada Commons:
http://www.adacore.com/adaanswers/resources/safe_secure/
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* Re: Listing currently maintained libraries for Ada
2012-06-18 17:49 ` Manuel Gomez
2012-06-19 13:59 ` Marco
@ 2012-06-22 18:34 ` Manuel Gomez
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From: Manuel Gomez @ 2012-06-22 18:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
El 18/06/12 19:49, Manuel Gomez escribi�:
> El 17/06/12 21:25, Tero Koskinen escribi�:
>> You can add Ada libraries and applications to AdaCommons wiki, for
>> example.
>>
>> The address is http://commons.ada.cx/Main_Page
>>
>> Also, if you find dead links, you can fix them by yourself, since it is
>> a wiki. :)
>
> And since it is based on Mediawiki we can use the Pywikipediabot [1] for
> finding dead links in the articles. I've used it for checking all the
> site and I've pasted the list of pages with dead links in the TODO page
> [2]. If anyone knows where has the information been moved, please edit
> the corresponding page for fixing it.
>
> I intend to pass the bot periodically on Ada Commons so we can maintain
> it clean of dead links.
>
> Regards,
> Manuel
>
> [1]
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikipediabot/weblinkchecker.py
> [2]
> http://commons.ada.cx/TODO
Thanks for those that have contributed to fix some links in Ada Commons.
I have done the same check for the Ada Programming wikibook and the
result is here:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Talk:Ada_Programming
#Broken_external_links_in_the_book
Regards,
Manuel
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* Re: Listing currently maintained libraries for Ada
2012-06-17 19:25 ` Tero Koskinen
2012-06-18 0:56 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-18 17:49 ` Manuel Gomez
@ 2012-06-29 21:59 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2012-06-30 1:44 ` anon
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From: Vinzent Hoefler @ 2012-06-29 21:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
Tero Koskinen wrote:
> You can add Ada libraries and applications to AdaCommons wiki, for
> example.
>
> The address is http://commons.ada.cx/Main_Page
Just added a link to AdaSDL. I am currently in negotiation with the author to
update that binding to version 2.0.
Does anyone know what happened to the other SDLAda binding? The link is dead
and I can't seem to find a working one....
Vinzent.
--
The most likely way for the world to be destroyed, most experts agree,
is by accident. That's where we come in; we're computer professionals.
We cause accidents.
-- Nathaniel Borenstein
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* Re: Listing currently maintained libraries for Ada
2012-06-15 3:51 Listing currently maintained libraries for Ada i3text
2012-06-15 5:37 ` Jeffrey Carter
@ 2012-06-15 7:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-15 11:56 ` Patrick
2012-06-15 13:45 ` Dirk Heinrichs
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From: Dmitry A. Kazakov @ 2012-06-15 7:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:51:31 -0700 (PDT), i3text@gmail.com wrote:
> When searching for Ada libraries, it is discouraging to find mostly dead
> links or links to dead projects.
Not that I propose exactly this software, but maybe as an idea:
http://pad.asp-software.org/
Library maintainers register their PAD file locations and refresh the file
with each release. The server maintaining references periodically scans PAD
files at their locations for updates.
The idea is to relieve the library maintainer from pushing notifications to
all sites referencing the library.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2012-06-15 3:51 Listing currently maintained libraries for Ada i3text
2012-06-15 5:37 ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-06-15 7:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
@ 2012-06-15 13:45 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2012-06-15 19:31 ` i3text
2012-06-15 20:06 ` gautier_niouzes
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From: Dirk Heinrichs @ 2012-06-15 13:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
i3text@gmail.com wrote:
> WiSeSLAp -- Very light GUI toolkit.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/wiseslap/?source=directory
Hmm, this doesn't seem to be an Ada project. Description says:
"The Widget Set for Super-Light Applications is a minimalist GUI toolkit
written in Pascal."
Or does it have Ada bindings which it doesn't mention?
Bye...
Dirk
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@ 2012-06-15 20:06 ` gautier_niouzes
2012-06-16 6:35 ` Vadim Godunko
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From: gautier_niouzes @ 2012-06-15 20:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
> Zada -- A Zlib implementation in Ada.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/zada/?source=directory
This one is unfortunately still in the status of vaporware.
Actually it is a question of combining the front-end of the ZLib-for-Ada bindings and the Deflate/Inflate compression code in Zip-Ada as for the "brains". But nothing done so far.
As "actively maintained" you can list the ZLib-for-Ada (until one day the ZLib-in-Ada, i.e. Zada, sees the light...):
http://sourceforge.net/projects/zlib-ada/?source=directory
Cheers
G.
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From: Vadim Godunko @ 2012-06-16 6:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
AXMPP - implementation of XMPP protocol
http://forge.ada-ru.org/axmpp
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From: Stephen Leake @ 2012-06-16 13:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
i3text@gmail.com writes:
> When searching for Ada libraries, it is discouraging to find mostly
> dead links or links to dead projects. So I decided to make a list of
> all the libraries I could find that seem to be still active projects.
> To be listed, a library must have seen some maintenance activity
> within the last year.
That's a little short, but you do need some cutoff.
A related criteria would be postings on a dedicated mailing list, or
here.
> Do you know any I've missed?
mine: http://stephe-leake.org/
But I understand why; I haven't posted a new version of SAL since 2009!
It really is time to update; I use these libraries all the time at work,
and there is new stuff. I get very little feedback from users, so I tend
to forget about the website.
--
-- Stephe
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2012-06-20 14:39 ` AdaMagica
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From: RasikaSrinivasan @ 2012-06-16 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
Not for production, but for learning:
Mine: projectlets.sourceforge.net
On Thursday, June 14, 2012 11:51:31 PM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:
> When searching for Ada libraries, it is discouraging to find mostly dead links or links to dead projects. So I decided to make a list of all the libraries I could find that seem to be still active projects. To be listed, a library must have seen some maintenance activity within the last year. I generally ingored things that are already part of the GNAT distribution.
>
> At first, I wanted to list just libraries of production quality, but I figured I couldn't reliably evaluate that. So, a lot of the things here are alpha quality. Of course, there are libraries that haven't seen any work for several years but still get downloaded a lot. But I wanted a listing of libraries where I could reasonably expect help and bug-fixes.
>
> Do you know any I've missed?
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> Ada 2005 Math Extensions -- Additions to the GNAT libraries.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnat-math-extn/?source=directory
>
> Ada 95 Booch Components -- Container library.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/booch95/?source=directory
>
> ada-ado -- Mapping for object-relational databases.
> http://code.google.com/p/ada-ado/
>
> ada-asf -- Ada Server Faces.
> http://code.google.com/p/ada-asf/
>
> ada-awa -- Ada Web Application.
> http://code.google.com/p/ada-awa/
>
> adabindinggmpmpfr -- Binding to the GNU GMP and MPFR.
> http://code.google.com/p/adabindinggmpmpfr/
>
> Ada Class Library -- Scripting tools.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/adacl/?source=directory
>
> Ada Cryptographic Objects -- Library of crypto primitives.
> http://www.assembla.com/code/acrypto/subversion/nodes
>
> ada-el -- A expression languge like JSP.
> http://code.google.com/p/ada-el/
>
> ada-gen -- Dynamo, a aid for web applications.
> http://code.google.com/p/ada-gen/
>
> ada-security -- Ada web security framework.
> http://code.google.com/p/ada-security/
>
> Ada Spawn Manager -- Control for spawing processes.
> http://www.codelabs.ch/spawn-manager/index.html
>
> ada-util -- Ada Utility Library.
> http://code.google.com/p/ada-util/
>
> Ahven -- A simple unit testing library for Ada 95.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ahven/?source=directory
>
> aicwl -- Industrial control GUI widgets.
> http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de/ada/aicwl.htm
>
> ARM-Ada -- Some libraries for compiling to ARM.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/arm-ada/?source=directory
>
> Basil -- MIME library for Ada 2005.
> http://hafdconsulting.com/projects/basil/
>
> components -- Misc objects.
> http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de/ada/components.htm
>
> Config -- A package for parsing configuration files.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ini-files/?source=directory
>
> Debug -- Trace support for multitasking programs.
> http://www.adalog.fr/compo2.htm
>
> Deepend -- A storage pool with subpool capabilities for Ada 2005.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/deepend/?source=directory
>
> dequesterity -- Deque/buffer generics in Ada 2005.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/dequesterity/?source=directory
>
> EWS -- Embedded Web Server.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/embed-web-srvr/?source=directory
>
> Excel_Out -- A package for writing Excel files.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/excel-writer/?source=directory
>
> Florist -- Ada POSIX binding.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnat-florist/?source=directory
>
> fuzzy -- Fuzzy sets for Ada 2005.
> http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de/ada/fuzzy.htm
>
> Generic Image Decoder -- Package for image decoding.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gen-img-dec/?source=directory
>
> GLOBE_3D -- Real-time 3D engine based on OpenGL.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/globe3d/?source=directory
>
> GNADE -- GNat Ada 95 Database Environment.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnade/?source=directory
>
> gtkada_contributions -- Extras for GtkAda.
> http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de/ada/gtkada_contributions.htm
>
> GWindows -- GUI framework for Windows.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnavi/?source=directory
>
> intervals -- Interval arithmetic library.
> http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de/ada/intervals.htm
>
> KOW -- Framework for database management.
> http://framework.kow.com.br/
>
> libadanix -- A POSIX binding for GNAT.
> http://code.google.com/p/libadanix/
>
> libredave -- Library for using Simatic S5/S7.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/librdave/?source=directory
>
> libsparkcrypto -- A verified cryptographic library in SPARK.
> http://senier.net/libsparkcrypto/
>
> match -- Pattern matching library.
> http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de/match/match.htm
>
> Mathpaqs -- Various math packages.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/mathpaqs/?source=directory
>
> Matreshka -- Text, database, and web framework.
> http://forge.ada-ru.org/matreshka
>
> ORBit-Ada -- Binding to the ORBit Corba ORB.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/orbitada/?source=directory
>
> OS_Services -- Access to common operating system features.
> http://www.adalog.fr/compo2.htm
>
> paraffin -- Ada 2005 generics to support parallelism.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/paraffin/?source=directory
>
> PCSC/Ada -- Bindings to PC/SC middleware.
> http://www.codelabs.ch/pcscada/
>
> player-ada -- Bindings for the player robotic platform.
> https://github.com/mosteo/player-ada
>
> plplot -- Bindings to the PLplot plotting library.
> http://plplot.sourceforge.net/
>
> PNG_IO -- Ada 95 coder/decoder for PNG files.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/png-io/?source=directory
>
> portaudioada -- Binding to PortAudio.
> http://code.google.com/p/portaudioada/
>
> Protection -- Protection for semaphores and procedures.
> http://www.adalog.fr/compo2.htm
>
> QtAda -- Bindings to the Qt GUI framework.
> http://www.qtada.com/
>
> SOCI-Ada -- Wrapper for the SOCI database library.
> http://www.inspirel.com/soci-ada/
>
> Storage_Stream -- Write data of any type at any location.
> http://www.adalog.fr/compo2.htm
>
> strings_edit -- Strings library with UTF-8 and pattern matching.
> http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de/ada/strings_edit.htm
>
> tables -- Search in tables with string keys.
> http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de/ada/tables.htm
>
> TclAdaShell -- Binding to Tcl/Tk.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/tcladashell/?source=directory
>
> Templates_Parser -- Library for generating HTML.
> http://www.obry.net/
>
> units -- Library for handling units of measurement.
> http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de/ada/units.htm
>
> v8a -- Binding to V8 JavaScript engine.
> http://code.google.com/p/v8a/
>
> Variable_String -- Support for variable length strings.
> http://www.adalog.fr/compo2.htm
>
> VTKAda -- Ada 2012 bindings to Visualization Toolkit.
> http://users1.jabry.com/adastudio/vtkada/vtkada.html
>
> WiSeSLAp -- Very light GUI toolkit.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/wiseslap/?source=directory
>
> YAMI4 -- Messaging library for distributed systems.
> http://www.inspirel.com/yami4/
>
> Zada -- A Zlib implementation in Ada.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/zada/?source=directory
>
> ZanyBlue -- A framework for finite element analysis.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/zanyblue/?source=directory
>
> Zip-Ada -- A library for .zip archives.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/unzip-ada/?source=directory
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2012-06-16 14:04 ` RasikaSrinivasan
@ 2012-06-20 14:39 ` AdaMagica
2012-06-21 19:40 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-06 7:56 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
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From: AdaMagica @ 2012-06-20 14:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
You might add:
SI Unit checker (will probably not have any updates in the next future)
http://www.christ-usch-grein.homepage.t-online.de/Ada/SI.html
Reference-counted pointers whose safety cannot be compromized (not task safe however) (will have an Ada 2012 update soon)
http://www.christ-usch-grein.homepage.t-online.de/Ada/Smart_Pointers.html
A lexical scanner for Ada (all Ada versions from 83 to 2012)
http://www.christ-usch-grein.homepage.t-online.de/Ada/Lexer.html
Open Token, token analysis and parsing (including token recognizers for Ada, Java, C, Modula 3)
http://stephe-leake.org/ada/opentoken.html
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2012-06-20 14:39 ` AdaMagica
@ 2012-06-21 19:40 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-06 7:56 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
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From: Randy Brukardt @ 2012-06-21 19:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
Of course, Claw is still supported
(http://www.rrsoftware.com/html/prodinf/claw/claw.htm), but I suppose it
doesn't meet your criteria because the free version (and the web page)
hasn't been updated in years. (There hasn't been any bug reports against the
free version that I know of, so it doesn't matter much.)
Now that Ada 2012 is finished, I'll have more time to get these things
updated; I've almost got the new compiler version finished and then I'll do
that same for Claw.
Randy.
<i3text@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d36fe271-b6de-489b-9f4d-e6994773445e@googlegroups.com...
When searching for Ada libraries, it is discouraging to find mostly dead
links or links to dead projects. So I decided to make a list of all the
libraries I could find that seem to be still active projects. To be listed,
a library must have seen some maintenance activity within the last year. I
generally ingored things that are already part of the GNAT distribution.
At first, I wanted to list just libraries of production quality, but I
figured I couldn't reliably evaluate that. So, a lot of the things here are
alpha quality. Of course, there are libraries that haven't seen any work for
several years but still get downloaded a lot. But I wanted a listing of
libraries where I could reasonably expect help and bug-fixes.
Do you know any I've missed?
-----------------------------------
Ada 2005 Math Extensions -- Additions to the GNAT libraries.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnat-math-extn/?source=directory
Ada 95 Booch Components -- Container library.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/booch95/?source=directory
ada-ado -- Mapping for object-relational databases.
http://code.google.com/p/ada-ado/
ada-asf -- Ada Server Faces.
http://code.google.com/p/ada-asf/
ada-awa -- Ada Web Application.
http://code.google.com/p/ada-awa/
adabindinggmpmpfr -- Binding to the GNU GMP and MPFR.
http://code.google.com/p/adabindinggmpmpfr/
Ada Class Library -- Scripting tools.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/adacl/?source=directory
Ada Cryptographic Objects -- Library of crypto primitives.
http://www.assembla.com/code/acrypto/subversion/nodes
ada-el -- A expression languge like JSP.
http://code.google.com/p/ada-el/
ada-gen -- Dynamo, a aid for web applications.
http://code.google.com/p/ada-gen/
ada-security -- Ada web security framework.
http://code.google.com/p/ada-security/
Ada Spawn Manager -- Control for spawing processes.
http://www.codelabs.ch/spawn-manager/index.html
ada-util -- Ada Utility Library.
http://code.google.com/p/ada-util/
Ahven -- A simple unit testing library for Ada 95.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ahven/?source=directory
aicwl -- Industrial control GUI widgets.
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de/ada/aicwl.htm
ARM-Ada -- Some libraries for compiling to ARM.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/arm-ada/?source=directory
Basil -- MIME library for Ada 2005.
http://hafdconsulting.com/projects/basil/
components -- Misc objects.
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de/ada/components.htm
Config -- A package for parsing configuration files.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ini-files/?source=directory
Debug -- Trace support for multitasking programs.
http://www.adalog.fr/compo2.htm
Deepend -- A storage pool with subpool capabilities for Ada 2005.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/deepend/?source=directory
dequesterity -- Deque/buffer generics in Ada 2005.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/dequesterity/?source=directory
EWS -- Embedded Web Server.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/embed-web-srvr/?source=directory
Excel_Out -- A package for writing Excel files.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/excel-writer/?source=directory
Florist -- Ada POSIX binding.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnat-florist/?source=directory
fuzzy -- Fuzzy sets for Ada 2005.
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de/ada/fuzzy.htm
Generic Image Decoder -- Package for image decoding.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gen-img-dec/?source=directory
GLOBE_3D -- Real-time 3D engine based on OpenGL.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/globe3d/?source=directory
GNADE -- GNat Ada 95 Database Environment.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnade/?source=directory
gtkada_contributions -- Extras for GtkAda.
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de/ada/gtkada_contributions.htm
GWindows -- GUI framework for Windows.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnavi/?source=directory
intervals -- Interval arithmetic library.
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de/ada/intervals.htm
KOW -- Framework for database management.
http://framework.kow.com.br/
libadanix -- A POSIX binding for GNAT.
http://code.google.com/p/libadanix/
libredave -- Library for using Simatic S5/S7.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/librdave/?source=directory
libsparkcrypto -- A verified cryptographic library in SPARK.
http://senier.net/libsparkcrypto/
match -- Pattern matching library.
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de/match/match.htm
Mathpaqs -- Various math packages.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mathpaqs/?source=directory
Matreshka -- Text, database, and web framework.
http://forge.ada-ru.org/matreshka
ORBit-Ada -- Binding to the ORBit Corba ORB.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/orbitada/?source=directory
OS_Services -- Access to common operating system features.
http://www.adalog.fr/compo2.htm
paraffin -- Ada 2005 generics to support parallelism.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/paraffin/?source=directory
PCSC/Ada -- Bindings to PC/SC middleware.
http://www.codelabs.ch/pcscada/
player-ada -- Bindings for the player robotic platform.
https://github.com/mosteo/player-ada
plplot -- Bindings to the PLplot plotting library.
http://plplot.sourceforge.net/
PNG_IO -- Ada 95 coder/decoder for PNG files.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/png-io/?source=directory
portaudioada -- Binding to PortAudio.
http://code.google.com/p/portaudioada/
Protection -- Protection for semaphores and procedures.
http://www.adalog.fr/compo2.htm
QtAda -- Bindings to the Qt GUI framework.
http://www.qtada.com/
SOCI-Ada -- Wrapper for the SOCI database library.
http://www.inspirel.com/soci-ada/
Storage_Stream -- Write data of any type at any location.
http://www.adalog.fr/compo2.htm
strings_edit -- Strings library with UTF-8 and pattern matching.
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de/ada/strings_edit.htm
tables -- Search in tables with string keys.
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de/ada/tables.htm
TclAdaShell -- Binding to Tcl/Tk.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/tcladashell/?source=directory
Templates_Parser -- Library for generating HTML.
http://www.obry.net/
units -- Library for handling units of measurement.
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de/ada/units.htm
v8a -- Binding to V8 JavaScript engine.
http://code.google.com/p/v8a/
Variable_String -- Support for variable length strings.
http://www.adalog.fr/compo2.htm
VTKAda -- Ada 2012 bindings to Visualization Toolkit.
http://users1.jabry.com/adastudio/vtkada/vtkada.html
WiSeSLAp -- Very light GUI toolkit.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/wiseslap/?source=directory
YAMI4 -- Messaging library for distributed systems.
http://www.inspirel.com/yami4/
Zada -- A Zlib implementation in Ada.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/zada/?source=directory
ZanyBlue -- A framework for finite element analysis.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/zanyblue/?source=directory
Zip-Ada -- A library for .zip archives.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/unzip-ada/?source=directory
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2012-06-21 19:40 ` Randy Brukardt
@ 2012-07-06 7:56 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
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From: Jacob Sparre Andersen @ 2012-07-06 7:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
i3text@gmail.com wrote:
[ I disagree with the usefulness of the criteria, but... ]
> Do you know any I've missed?
Sound recording API.
http://repositories.jacob-sparre.dk/alsa-binding
OpenID client (a fork of Ada Server Faces).
http://repositories.jacob-sparre.dk/openid-client
Greetings,
Jacob
--
Statistics is like a bikini - what it shows is very suggestive,
but the most important stuff is still hidden.
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