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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: No call for Ada
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 12:48:24 +0200
Date: 2004-04-10T12:48:24+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c58je7$2qh7ca$1@ID-77047.news.uni-berlin.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.232.1081536198.327.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org

Andrew Carroll wrote:

> From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
> Subject: Re: No call for Ada
> [snip]
>> In my view, nothing will change until governments (US, I do not believe
>> in EU) understand that the current state of software development is a
>> real threat, in a long term perspective, maybe, greater than terrorism.
>>
> I'm not sure if your saying that governments need to verify all software
> that goes to market, sort of like the FDA approves medications

There are different ways. Don't you agree that the software which fault may
lead to loss of human life shall be approved? For the rest it would be
enough to require some level of liability for commercial software depending
on its price and application area.

> or
> if your saying that the US companies are predominantly responsible
> for the majority of bad software and it's the US governments fault.

The government should have cared to keep OS diversity. It should have
invested in key software development areas such as languages, OS,
networking, graphics. Ada exists only because it was sponsored.

> Either way I agree that ALL software from EVERY country could
> be writen better.  I disagree that it should be "approved" by some
> government entity.  Imagine how much a copy of Windows would
> cost then!!

Imagine that a new Windows version will be bought once per decade? But see
above, there is no need to approve Windows used at home.

> Not only that but who approves the methods of approval?

It is much lesser problem. It is not rocket science to see what Windows is. 

> What
> your saying is like saying that the industry needs an unpenetrable
> network firewall.  To your surprise, there is one!  Disconnect your
> network from the Internet and then, your network is unpenetrable
> from the Internet.  See how easy that was?

Consider that recent attempts to introduce an internet-based voting system.
Sooner or later it will come.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-04-10 10:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20040409115529.8C0D24C412B@lovelace.ada-france.org>
2004-04-09 19:01 ` No call for Ada Andrew Carroll
2004-04-09 20:19   ` Marin David Condic
2004-04-14 14:29     ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-04-10 10:48   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2004-04-11 17:23     ` chris
2004-04-12 10:29       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-04-10 19:27 No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping Wes Groleau
2004-04-10 20:06 ` tmoran
2004-04-10 21:38   ` Wes Groleau
2004-04-12 22:34     ` Randy Brukardt
2004-04-14 11:41       ` Marin David Condic
2004-04-14 14:12         ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-04-14 17:52           ` No call for Ada Jeffrey Carter
2004-04-15 16:17             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-04-08 12:44 Lionel.DRAGHI
     [not found] <20040408081031.D01934C4136@lovelace.ada-france.org>
2004-04-08  9:44 ` Andrew Carroll
     [not found] <20040206174017.7E84F4C4114@lovelace.ada-france.org>
2004-02-07  8:50 ` No call for it Carroll-Tech
2004-02-07 13:00   ` No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language) Ludovic Brenta
2004-02-07 19:24     ` MSG
2004-02-08  3:15       ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-04-02 23:18         ` Beth Bruzan
2004-04-03  0:08           ` David Starner
2004-04-03  9:13             ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-04-03 11:51               ` Martin Krischik
2004-04-03 22:26                 ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-04-04 10:00                   ` Florian Weimer
2004-04-05 18:07                     ` No call for Ada Marc A. Criley
2004-04-05 21:16                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-04-06 11:00                         ` Marin David Condic
2004-04-05 22:09                       ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-04-05 22:20                       ` chris
2004-04-06 13:25                         ` Marc A. Criley
2004-04-07  1:17                           ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-04-03 13:06           ` No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language) Marin David Condic
2004-04-03 14:12             ` James Rogers
2004-04-03 14:29               ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-04-03 16:54                 ` Marin David Condic
2004-04-03 19:46                   ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-04-05 12:10                     ` Marin David Condic
2004-04-05 20:38                       ` Randy Brukardt
2004-04-06 11:59                         ` Marin David Condic
2004-04-06 19:07                           ` Randy Brukardt
2004-04-07  0:31                             ` David Starner
2004-04-07 17:40                               ` Pascal Obry
2004-04-07 22:14                                 ` David Starner
2004-04-07 22:44                                   ` Ed Falis
2004-04-07 23:06                                     ` Szymon Guz
2004-04-08 17:34                                       ` No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototypinglanguage) Marius Amado Alves
2004-04-08 11:46                                         ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2004-04-08 13:53                                           ` No call for Ada Samuel Tardieu
2004-04-08  1:58             ` Berend de Boer
     [not found] <20040407175513.BABA64C410A@lovelace.ada-france.org>
2004-04-07 21:20 ` Andrew Carroll
2004-04-08  6:39   ` Pascal Obry
2004-04-08  9:36   ` Martin Krischik
     [not found] ` <001b01c41ce6$206bad80$0201a8c0@win>
2004-04-08  7:07   ` Marius Amado Alves
     [not found] <20040406215514.474514C410D@lovelace.ada-france.org>
2004-04-06 23:42 ` Andrew Carroll
2004-04-07  1:13   ` Ed Falis
2004-04-07  7:06   ` Martin Krischik
2004-04-08 12:39     ` Ludovic Brenta
2004-04-08 16:58       ` Martin Krischik
2004-04-07 13:46   ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-04-06  8:17 No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language) Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-04-07  2:15 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2004-04-07  9:34   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-04-07 11:38     ` Marin David Condic
2004-04-08  9:59       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-04-08 20:46         ` No call for Ada Marius Amado Alves
2004-04-09 11:26           ` Marin David Condic
2004-04-09 15:50             ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-04-09 11:34           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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