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From: Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid>
Subject: Re: A bad counterintuitive behaviour of Ada about OO
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 00:51:18 +0300
Date: 2014-08-06T00:51:18+03:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c4d1ujFghdnU1@mid.individual.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <lrrgvu$6mh$1@speranza.aioe.org>

On 14-08-06 00:06 , Victor Porton wrote:
> Simon Wright wrote:
> 
>> Victor Porton <porton@narod.ru> writes:
>>
>>> http://freesoft.portonvictor.org/binaries/ada-obj-test.tar.gz
>>>
>>> contains a tiny Ada program which prints 0 despite intuition suggests
>>> that it should print 123, because it just copies (using Adjust) an object
>>> holding 123.
>>>
>>> In this program Handle_Type models some handle provided by an external
>>> API, where 0 is an undefined handle. Base_Object is a tagged record which
>>> holds a handle inside itself and can copy or destroy the handle
>>> automatically (as Base_Object is a controlled object).
>>>
>>> Example_Record is a derived type of Base_Object which imitates a behavior
>>> of a simple library which operates over some handles. For example, in
>>> this example copying a handle preserves it unchanged.
>>>
>>> This tiny program was created by me as a model of my real Ada bindings
>>> for Raptor C library, which produces a wrong behavior.
>>>
>>> Why Ada behaves in this counter-intuitive way?
>>>
>>> What should I do in similar situations when developing real Ada software?
>>
>> I think what is happening is that in
>>
>>    function From_Handle(Handle: Handle_Type) return Base_Object is
>>    begin
>>       return (Ada.Finalization.Controlled with Handle=>Handle);
>>    end;
>>
>> the aggregate is created and copied to the function's result as a
>> Base_Object, so that when
>>
>>    procedure Adjust(Object: in out Base_Object) is
>>    begin
>>       if Object.Handle /= 0 then
>>          Object.Handle := Copy_Handle(Base_Object'Class(Object),
>>          Object.Handle);
>>       end if;
>>    end;
>>
>> is called during the copy,
>>
>>    function Copy_Handle(Object: Base_Object; Handle: Handle_Type) return
>>    Handle_Type is begin
>>       return 0;
>>    end;
>>
>> returns 0, as you've seen.
>>
>>
>> (1) If all you wanted to do was copy the Handle over, you don't need to
>> do anything, because that's the default behaviour (i.e., copies the
>> bits).
>>
>> (2) Normally, From_Handle wouldn't be inherited, so you'd have had to
>> write your own; because Example_Object has a null extension, it can be
>> inherited.
> 
> I've added in example_record.ads:
> 
>    function From_Handle(Handle: Handle_Type) return Example_Object;
> 
> and in example_record.adb:
> 
>    function From_Handle(Handle: Handle_Type) return Example_Object is
>    begin
>       return (Base_Object'(From_Handle(Handle)) with null record);
>    end;
> 
> It prints "0" not as it was before.

(I assume the "not" above is a mistake, and you mean that it prints "0"
just as before.)

That happens because in your new From_Handle for Example_Object, the
part Base_Object'(From_Handle(Handle)) returns an object of type
Base_Object, which is then assigned into the parent part of the
extension aggregate, and this assignment operation invokes the Adjust
operation for Base_Object, which invokes Copy_Handle for Base_Object,
which returns a zero handle.

> What to do? I write a real software project and need to make a decision what 
> to do in this situation.

Alternatives:

1. Write a sensible Copy_Handle for Base_Object (preferred solution), or

2. make Example_Record a child package of Handled_Record, which makes
the internal structure of Base_Object visible, and lets you write

    function From_Handle(Handle: Handle_Type) return Example_Object is
    begin
       return (Ada.Finalization.Controlled with Handle => Handle);
    end;

and therefore lets you create Example_Objects without going through a
Base_Object and its handle-destroying Copy_Handle.

By the way, Dmitry's advice not to use re-dispatching is his personal
opinion, shared by some people on comp.lang.ada but not by me; you
should consider the pros and cons yourself.

Re-dispatching is what happens in your Adjust operation when you convert
the Object to Base_Type'Class and then invoke Copy_Handle. The
conversion forces the call to be a dispatching call. Without conversion,
the call is statically bound to the Copy_Handle of Base_Object.

Re-dispatching plays no role in your problem. The problem is that by
making Base_Object private, and Example_Record not a child of
Handled_Record, you have made it impossible to create an Example_Object
without first creating a Base_Object and therefore invoking the Adjust
and Copy_Handle for Base_Object.

-- 
Niklas Holsti
Tidorum Ltd
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-05 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-05 20:09 A bad counterintuitive behaviour of Ada about OO Victor Porton
2014-08-05 20:58 ` Simon Wright
2014-08-05 21:06   ` Victor Porton
2014-08-05 21:51     ` Niklas Holsti [this message]
2014-08-05 22:13       ` Victor Porton
2014-08-05 22:35   ` Victor Porton
2014-08-05 23:25     ` Adam Beneschan
2014-08-05 20:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-05 21:07   ` Victor Porton
2014-08-05 22:39     ` Shark8
2014-08-05 21:11   ` Victor Porton
2014-08-06  7:26     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-07  7:41       ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-08-07  8:50         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-08  7:54           ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-08-08  8:14             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-08 13:06               ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-08-08 13:22                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-08 22:32                   ` Randy Brukardt
2014-08-09 16:11                   ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-08-09 16:48                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-10 20:55                       ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-08-11  7:41                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-11  7:58                           ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-08-11  8:23                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-12  7:50                               ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-08-11 11:35                             ` G.B.
2014-08-08 22:26                 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-08-08  8:34             ` Shark8
2014-08-08 12:59               ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-08-08 22:37                 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-08-08 22:53                   ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-08-07  8:58         ` J-P. Rosen
2014-08-07  9:40           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-07 11:17             ` J-P. Rosen
2014-08-07 12:28               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-07 13:34                 ` J-P. Rosen
2014-08-07 16:10                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-07 18:14                     ` Robert A Duff
2014-08-07 19:41                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-07 20:53                         ` Robert A Duff
2014-08-08  7:43                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-08  8:18                             ` Shark8
2014-08-08  7:45                     ` J-P. Rosen
2014-08-08  8:04                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-08  8:55                         ` J-P. Rosen
2014-08-08  9:13                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-08 10:01                             ` J-P. Rosen
2014-08-08 10:53                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-08 10:56                                 ` Victor Porton
2014-08-08 12:00                                 ` J-P. Rosen
2014-08-08 13:11                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-08 13:53                                     ` J-P. Rosen
2014-08-08 20:23                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-07 20:29                   ` Shark8
2014-08-08  7:49                     ` J-P. Rosen
2014-08-08  8:12                       ` Shark8
2014-08-08  8:26                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-08 11:10                           ` Shark8
2014-08-08 11:20                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-08 19:34                               ` Shark8
2014-08-08 20:23                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-07 15:03           ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-08-08  7:48           ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-08-08  8:51             ` J-P. Rosen
2014-08-08 13:25               ` Maciej Sobczak
2014-08-08 13:34                 ` J-P. Rosen
2014-08-08 13:52                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-08 14:21                     ` J-P. Rosen
2014-08-08 20:23                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-08 22:08                     ` Randy Brukardt
2014-08-08 22:18                 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-08-06  4:50 ` Per Sandberg
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