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From: sam@rfc1149.net (Samuel Tardieu)
Subject: Re: Ada-inspired OS/Language
Date: 30 Aug 2002 16:56:32 -0700
Date: 2002-08-30T23:56:32+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c47f93a2.0208301556.1d93331a@posting.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3D628304.3040506@cogeco.ca

"Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" <ve3wwg@cogeco.ca> wrote in message news:<3D628304.3040506@cogeco.ca>...

> Now we've regressed with the palms etc., back to this no-protection model.

Are you referring to Palm Inc. handhelds? (if you aren't, let's blame
the language barrier and ignore the rest of this message :-).

If this is the case, this is unfair to Palm Inc. Their handheld
devices contain a chip which prevents memory writes outside of the
heap (only one application can be running and thus access the heap at
a given time, and the stack is located in the heap space). When an
application wants to write into a so-called database (for example
another application or users persistent data), the PalmOS system call
checks the address, directs the external chip not to intercept the
next write operations if the address is correct (previously locked
memory chunk), do the write then tells the chip to prevent further
write operations in non-heap areas.

They do not have true memory protection (which would be useless in
their case), but they do offer a working alternative. That is why
their devices almost never loose data, even when they run bogus
applications (which can cause a data-safe device reset).

  Sam
-- 
  Samuel Tardieu -- http://www.rfc1149.net/sam -- sam@rfc1149.net



      parent reply	other threads:[~2002-08-30 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-20 14:10 Ada-inspired OS/Language Ryan
2002-08-20 14:34 ` Jim Rogers
2002-08-20 14:59 ` Darren New
2002-08-20 17:57 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 22:24   ` Nick Roberts
2002-08-30 13:33     ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-31  3:38       ` Nick Roberts
2002-08-31 13:54         ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-04 16:47         ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2002-09-04 17:24         ` Darren New
2002-09-05  3:16           ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-05  8:41             ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-09-12  2:17             ` Rod Haper
2002-09-06 17:31     ` Richard Riehle
2002-09-07  0:23       ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-07 13:43         ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-07 15:18           ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-08 22:14           ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-09 10:27             ` Advantage of XML based GUI? (was Re: Ada-inspired OS/Language) Preben Randhol
2002-09-09 14:27               ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-09 14:02                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-09 14:43                   ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-09 21:58                   ` Ryan Tarpine
2002-09-11 16:40                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-12 10:01                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-09-12 16:43                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-12 18:54                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-09-12 21:22                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-13 12:15                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-09-10  5:21                 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-10  5:21               ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-10 12:31                 ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-10 13:16                   ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-15 19:49                     ` Christopher Browne
2002-09-10 22:32                   ` achrist
2002-09-11  4:45                     ` Christopher Browne
2002-09-11  5:59                       ` achrist
2002-09-12 14:55                         ` Christopher Browne
2002-09-11  2:28               ` Ted Dennison
2002-09-11 13:54                 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-11 14:06                   ` Programmer Dude
2002-09-11 19:48                 ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-12  8:02                   ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-12 14:27                     ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-09-18 17:49                       ` Andrew Berg
2002-09-18 23:13                         ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-09-12 16:12                     ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-12 16:45                       ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-12 17:03                         ` David C. Hoos
2002-09-13  7:57                           ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-13 19:55                             ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-14 12:59                               ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-16  5:20                                 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-16  8:16                                 ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-16 11:47                                   ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-16 12:08                                     ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-17 12:04                                       ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-12 18:57                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-09-13  8:01                           ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-13 12:23                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-09-13 15:32                               ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-13  1:53                         ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-13  8:24                           ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-13 19:55                             ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-14 15:42                               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-14 16:19                                 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-09-15  3:31                                   ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-15  5:50                           ` Mark Biggar
2002-09-15  8:38                             ` achrist
2002-09-15 21:54                               ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-16 15:26                                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-17  2:36                                   ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-17  4:07                                 ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                                 ` <jHHM$fQsCilo@eisneOrganization: LJK Software <bNwUY4VpTlxs@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2002-09-17 22:05                                   ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-12 17:23                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-13  0:45                         ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-13  8:10                           ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-13 17:44                             ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-13  1:53                         ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-13  3:02                           ` Robert A Duff
2002-09-13 10:50                           ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2002-09-13 17:00                           ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-13 19:55                             ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-12 20:36                       ` chris.danx
2002-09-13  1:53                         ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-13 12:14                       ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-13 15:29                         ` Robert A Duff
2002-09-13 17:02                           ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-14 12:49                             ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-16  8:14                               ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-16 11:56                                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-13 17:27                           ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-09-16  7:55                             ` Mats Karlssohn
2002-09-13 15:34                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-09 10:00           ` Ada-inspired OS/Language Peter Hermann
2002-08-30 23:56   ` Samuel Tardieu [this message]
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