From: Jere <jhb.chat@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Full view of a private partial view cannot be a subtype
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 17:22:05 -0800 (PST)
Date: 2017-12-18T17:22:05-08:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c29c753e-18e9-475b-9a28-a19aa697ea2f@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p19gim$k2u$1@franka.jacob-sparre.dk>
On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 5:47:51 PM UTC-5, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" wrote in message
> > On 2017-12-17 16:26, Jere wrote:
> >
> >> my assertion is that:
> >>
> >> subtype Thing is Core_Pkg.Thing;
> >>
> >> procedure Do_Something(The_Thing : in out Thing)
> >> renames Core_Pkg.Do_Something;
> >> is easier to both maintain and read than:
> >>
> >> type Thing is new Core_Pkg.Thing with null record;
> >> procedure Do_Something(The_Thing : in out Thing);
> >
> > But these are two semantically different concepts. Ada's subtype declares
> > an equivalent type [it inherits everything from and exports everything to
> > the base]. Ada's new tagged type declares a new instance of a class. It
> > only inherits.
> >
> > I don't understand how can you exchange one for another.
>
> You can't really; they're very different concepts. The OP is showing a
> confusion, because the renames he wants is perfectly legal, assuming proper
> visibility. And if the items in question are private, then he is trying to
> make a privacy leak -- which the language will not make easy for obvious
> reasons.
>
> Randy/
I'm not really trying to make a privacy leak on purpose. I'm just trying to
provide a simpler interface to a much more complex and dangerous generic
so that someone doesn't accidentally use something they shouldn't. Any
privacy leaks are not intentional. I was just asking a question. Using
either extension, derivations, or composition all seemed very heavy handed
for just wanting to mimic the same specification as another generic. Subtypes
and renames expressed exactly the relationship I wanted, but the only thing
I couldn't do was hide a deallocation operation that should never be called
directly (it was an input to the base generic). That one items is what
got me to this question. I wanted to see if there was a way to keep the
subtype/rename method while hiding the operation and the answer looks to be
no. But I wasn't sitting around twiddling my fingers looking for ways to
break Ada privacy in the process. I just wanted to understand if there was
a way and if not, why. That's all, nothing nefarious on my part, at least
not intentionally.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-12-19 1:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-12-03 2:14 Full view of a private partial view cannot be a subtype Jere
2017-12-03 12:01 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-03 13:33 ` Jere
2017-12-03 14:34 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-03 17:44 ` Robert Eachus
2017-12-03 18:50 ` Simon Wright
2017-12-03 22:10 ` Robert Eachus
2017-12-03 19:03 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-03 22:23 ` Jere
2017-12-04 8:25 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-12-04 18:04 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-04 20:41 ` Jere
2017-12-04 21:48 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-05 8:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-12-05 18:16 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-05 20:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-12-05 21:38 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-05 12:35 ` Jere
2017-12-05 18:40 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-06 12:54 ` Jere
2017-12-06 18:03 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-05 20:22 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-05 15:27 ` Shark8
2017-12-05 18:50 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-05 20:59 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-05 22:43 ` Shark8
2017-12-07 0:52 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-05 20:16 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-05 21:29 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-12-07 0:04 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-04 20:49 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-05 12:56 ` Jere
2017-12-05 20:12 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-17 15:26 ` Jere
2017-12-17 15:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-12-18 22:47 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-19 1:22 ` Jere [this message]
2017-12-19 23:16 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-19 1:01 ` Jere
2017-12-19 9:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-12-19 13:08 ` Jere
2017-12-19 13:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-12-19 19:10 ` Stephen Leake
2017-12-18 20:45 ` Stephen Leake
2017-12-18 22:54 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-12-19 1:08 ` Jere
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