Re: Fuzzy machine learning framework v1.2

[Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com>]

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Georg Bauhaus <rm-host.bauhaus@maps.arcor.de> wrote:

> Kulin <remailer@reece.net.au> wrote:
> > "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr> wrote:
> > 
> >> Le 28/05/2012 12:08, Dmitry A. Kazakov a Ècrit :
> >>> This release is packaged for Windows, Fedora (yum) and Debian (apt). The
> >>> software is public domain (licensed under GM GPL).
> >> Just to be picky: if it's licensed under GMGPL, it's free software, but
> >> it's not public domain.
> > 
> > Just to be picky,
> 
> In this case the discussion hinges on the word "free"
> and its uses with software. Since there is no single
> definition of the word "free"

Freedom means the absence of restriction, and it doesn't matter that serfs
and GPL fanbois have participated in Stallman's obscene twisting of the
concept for his nefarious purposes. 

> discussions will necessarily lead into morass.

Only for liars and politicians. Everyone else agrees what freedom means.

> The GPL is openly stating the restrictions it imposes on the uses of a
> work

Bzzt! There's your answer, it's not free.

> (tit for tat at the source level).  The more permissive licenses do that,
> too (for example, "keep us out of it"). The sets of "may (not) do this or
> that" terms are different.

The MIT license doesn't seem to have any restrictions at all. The BSD
license seems to say "don't say you wrote this" but otherwise you can do
what you want. They're saying you shouldn't lie or plagiarize, but that is
not a restriction. They could also say not to rob or murder, but all of
those things are already agreed by society to be wrong and they have nothing
to do with the software itself, so I think the (new) BSD and MIT licenses
are really free software licenses. There are others.

> There is a profitable way of discussing whose perspective
> on "free" is right. It is when one can turn discussions
> into money and/or advertisements, such as through journals
> or in fora of market research organizations such as
> Google, or Facebook. There is less to be had from discussing
> "freedom" on c.l.Ada, I should think.

Agreed, but I can't let the GPL lies go unchallenged. If you spout, I'll
stomp it out.