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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Other Ada Standards (was Re: SIGada Conference)
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 12:44:24 +0100
Date: 2003-12-28T12:44:24+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bsmfaq$d8f2i$1@ID-77047.news.uni-berlin.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: bebbba07.0312271356.6fda713e@posting.google.com

Russ wrote:

> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message
> news:<bsjpps$dab6p$1@ID-77047.news.uni-berlin.de>...
>> Georg Bauhaus wrote:
>> 
>> > For the "with and use" case, what is your interpretation of
>> > "with and use A.B;"
>> > Is it "with A.B; use A.B;" or is it "with A; use A.B;"?
>> > Which interpretation is to be chosen?
>> 
>> Just allow "with" everywhere "use" is allowed. Then "use A.B" could
>> literally imply "with A.B".
> 
> Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think you meant exactly what you
> wrote. I think you meant that "with" should never choke on an argument
> that "use" would not choke on.

Yep.

> If I understand you correctly, I think that's an excellent proposal.
> It would eliminate an annoying technicality that prevents
> simplification of context declarations.

Well, one can never know all the consequences of a proposal...

With/use issue is rather a cosmetic one. It might be very important for
language promoting, though for those who are using Ada on daily basis, it
is uninteresting, yet. Another very important cosmetic thing, (Robert
Eachus and me mentioned it before) could be an ability to bundle a set of
with's and use's in one package with then could be with-ed / used-ed
instead.

And these cosmetic things are about

- information hiding,
- refactoring,
- reuse

of declarations. Isn't it more than just an issue of training a text editor?

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-12-28 11:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <468D78E4EE5C6A4093A4C00F29DF513D04B82B08@VS2.hdi.tvcabo>
2003-12-17  1:01 ` SIGada Conference Stephen Leake
2003-12-17  3:19   ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-12-18  6:55     ` Robert C. Leif
2003-12-18 15:23       ` Other Ada Standards (was Re: SIGada Conference) Robert I. Eachus
2003-12-18 18:27         ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-19  7:38           ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-12-19 23:10             ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-19  8:51           ` Russ
2003-12-19 17:03             ` tmoran
2003-12-20  0:43               ` Russ
2003-12-19 23:18             ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-20  7:05               ` Russ
2003-12-20  9:06                 ` Nick Roberts
2003-12-20 17:43                   ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-12-22  0:07                     ` Russ
     [not found]                       ` <bfcib1-r43.ln1@beastie.ix.netcom.com>
2003-12-22 17:10                         ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-12-22 18:25                           ` Larry Hazel
2003-12-23 16:55                             ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-12-24 13:17                               ` Marin David Condic
2003-12-24 14:57                                 ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-25  3:26                                   ` Marin David Condic
2004-01-03 19:03                                   ` Pascal Obry
2003-12-24 20:16                                 ` Russ
2003-12-24 21:41                                   ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-25  2:51                                     ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-12-25  3:42                                     ` Marin David Condic
2003-12-25  6:35                                       ` Russ
2003-12-25 12:34                                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-25 15:38                                           ` Marin David Condic
2003-12-26 20:09                                             ` Russ
2003-12-27  3:39                                               ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-27  7:40                                                 ` Russ
2003-12-27 11:18                                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-28  5:56                                                     ` Russ
2003-12-27 11:24                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-27 12:21                                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-28 11:44                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-28 13:59                                                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-28 19:43                                                         ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-28 20:47                                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-28 19:54                                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-29  6:07                                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-29 11:28                                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-29 13:36                                                               ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-12-29  6:25                                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-27 18:43                                                   ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-28 11:45                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-28 19:59                                                       ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-30 18:03                                                     ` Peter Richtmyer
2003-12-30 23:02                                                       ` Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
2003-12-27 21:56                                                   ` Russ
2003-12-27 22:52                                                     ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-12-28 11:44                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2003-12-28 18:14                                                       ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-12-28 19:55                                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-29  2:08                                                           ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-12-29 11:29                                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-29 13:44                                                               ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-12-29 17:07                                                                 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-12-28 23:17                                                       ` Russ
2003-12-28 23:45                                                         ` Wes Groleau
2003-12-27 14:09                                                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-12-27 19:25                                                   ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-12-28  1:47                                                   ` Russ
2003-12-23 10:49                           ` come from joke (was " Peter Hermann
2003-12-23 12:19                             ` come from joke Samuel Tardieu
2003-12-23 17:00                               ` Arthur Evans Jr
2003-12-23 22:03                               ` Wes Groleau
2003-12-25  0:37                                 ` Stephane Richard
2003-12-27  1:00                                   ` John Woodruff
2003-12-24 18:48                               ` Simon Wright
2003-12-23 12:39                             ` come from joke (was Re: Other Ada Standards (was Re: SIGada Conference) Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-12-23 15:50                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-23 16:03                               ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-12-23 16:12                               ` Peter Hermann
2003-12-22 18:29                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-12-20 19:44                   ` tmoran
2003-12-22 18:22                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-12-20  0:39             ` Russ
2003-12-20  1:44               ` unknown
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