From: "Ekkehard Morgenstern" <ekkehard.morgenstern@onlinehome.de>
Subject: Re: [announcement] SYSAPI and SYSSVC for Windows
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:31:26 +0100
Date: 2003-12-22T16:31:26+01:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bs72oh$qkv$1@online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1072105705.142888@master.nyc.kbcfp.com
"Hyman Rosen" <hyrosen@mail.com> wrote:
> One of the evolutionary aspects of GNAT is its ability to provide
> clear and coherent error messages that direct the programmer's
> attention to the most likely problem in an incorrect program. This
> has come about through years of feedback, where users of GNAT report
> messages which are less than what they would like to see, and GNAT
> is augmented to handle those cases.
This a very good aspect of GNAT that I already realized when using
it. Before I can make a decision whether to port GNAT and the GCC,
I will have to take a look at its source. I will do that soon.
As I understand the GCC bootstrapping phase, I will have to write
a minimal C compiler that conforms to some rules, and then I can
compile with it the first stage of GCC, and with that the second,
and so on. And then I just need to recompile the GNU libraries
and the GNAT compiler.
However, I haven't looked at the GCC source for some years, so I
have to update myself on that first.
My only concern is, that I won't need all the stuff that comes
with the GCC, the GNU libraries and GNAT.
The whole concept also makes assumptions about storage of source
files. I want to store all code and sources into a database
and read them from there. Since my database supports versioning,
the scope of file names is inappropriate. My compiler shall work
without files, since I want to use it to write the base of an
operating system. Since many of the GNU projects are file-based,
this might present a problem.
> Without examining GNAT's code, and without access to its test suite,
> you will not have the benefit of those feedbacks, and your error
> messages will be of low quality.
This might indeed be a problem. Perhaps my Ada compiler will only
be for writing the base code that can boot and run the operating
system, and then I can use a POSIX layer to support the GNU stuff,
including GNAT. So on my OS, you would still be able to use GNAT,
if you want to.
I'm using my own compiler-generation tools, and I will write new
ones for Ada, but the automated translation approach that I've
chosen leaves little possibility for good error messages. In the
horrible first version of my compiler-generator, the source text
would just be accepted or rejected, resulting in a single error
message! ;) -- of course I cannot uphold that for compilers that
are used by the general public. I will think of a better concept
for my compiler-creation tools that will allow better checks. :)
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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-12-17 19:17 [announcement] SYSAPI and SYSSVC for Windows amado.alves
2003-12-17 19:56 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-18 9:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-18 12:14 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-18 13:31 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-19 10:45 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-19 17:12 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-19 17:22 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-12-20 0:21 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-20 2:18 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-20 4:40 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-21 3:45 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-21 19:01 ` Piracy was " Robert I. Eachus
2003-12-18 14:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-19 11:11 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-19 15:15 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-19 15:50 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-19 16:48 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-19 16:57 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-20 1:17 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-21 2:19 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-21 10:34 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-22 9:02 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-22 15:17 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-22 15:08 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-22 15:31 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern [this message]
2003-12-22 16:35 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-23 1:47 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-23 8:40 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-23 9:05 ` Stephen Leake
2003-12-19 17:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-20 1:49 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-20 11:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-20 13:40 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-20 17:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-20 19:52 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-21 4:24 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-21 13:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-21 15:48 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-21 17:46 ` Michal Morawski
2003-12-21 18:05 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-22 0:50 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-12-23 23:02 ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-24 11:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-24 16:57 ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-25 14:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-28 1:49 ` Dave Thompson
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2003-12-15 14:18 Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-15 15:10 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-15 17:10 ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-12-15 18:38 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-16 0:25 ` Stephen Leake
2003-12-16 0:56 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-16 2:47 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-12-16 17:45 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-16 19:54 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-12-16 22:09 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-17 15:24 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-12-17 23:23 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-19 18:14 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-12-16 5:36 ` tmoran
2003-12-16 17:30 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-15 20:44 ` David Marceau
2003-12-16 0:34 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-17 12:05 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-17 15:00 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-20 19:24 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
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